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Re: Why (NOT) Win2k for gaming ?

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From: RMS
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 00:00
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Well if it ain't the village _ _ _ _ _

Let me appologize for that right now, I just couldn't resist :)

Now, to be slightly more serious (Not really, just my opinions).

No, I'm just a regular smoe with a regular job. I don't have a super grab
bag of experience, I just know when smoke is being blown up my arse. I will
tell you right now, that any Athlon chip is more stable than a dual Intel
machine. The reason you hear of a few people with Athlon problems is because
we build, customize, and repair our own systems. The majority of the Wintel
group get their machines from Uncle Dell. He tell's you exactely what parts
to put in so their won't be trouble.

Windows is based on the X86 architecture. AMD and Intel both use the X86
architecture. I'd explain the history for you, but that would take too long.
It looks like you are trying to say RISC instructions are a bad idea???? If
this is true I won't dignify that with a comment.

See below for the responses to your tirade.

"COMPUTER VILLAGE" <INFO@COMPUTER-VILLAGE.COM> wrote in message
news:3A101FC5.18C8BA54@COMPUTER-VILLAGE.COM...
> Hey Rick...I dont doubt that your expertise is somewhere out there, but R
u
> gonna tell us that the POC that the Athlon chip offers is more stable than
a
> solid Dual 600EB u gotta be smokin some good ass shi* ...anyways next time

YES

> limit your responses to your Athlon partners...by the way I could take any
Dual

Just replying too the existing header.

> Athlon if it exists and smoke it with any PIII chip even lower in
> MHz...(remember that Windows is based on the Pentium architecture not the
AMD

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha..... Ha!

> -and the RISC instructions, one that by the way was not even in anyone's
head
> at the time that P and W were making money out of us...   ;-)

If you want to know what RISC is, visit Alpha processors, and see what speed
is.

>
> Take that AMD kiddo
>

Ouch!

>
>
>
>
> RMS wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your opinion. Since I think you are totally wrong about
virtually
> > everything, I'll let everybody know how it really works (IMNSHO).
> >
> > I have 3 systems, Athlon 800Mhz, PIII 550Mhz, and a K6-2 400Mhz (Enough
of
> > that.). I have been actually working in computer maintenance/network
admin
> > at a site that has 1200 clients for several years now (No MSCE,  ABCD,
or
> > anything else like that.).
> >
> > Facts:
> > 1) Dual processor systems are for systems that run multiple applications
at
> > the same time, anything else is a waste of CPU processing power. (The
> > exception of course is high end servers with OS's that have real
symetrical
> > processing, at the kernel level, like Solaris or IBM AIX.
> > 2) Win NT is a joke of an OS compared to any Unix OS (Just ask a real
> > administrator.) unless your main goal is to have everything automated
and
> > "who cares about performance".
> > 3) Win NT is a joke of an OS compared to Win 98 for playing games (This
may
> > be changing with Directx 8.0).
> > 4) Hayes modem - Not,
> >  Netgear NIC - Not,
> >  Intel PIII CPU - Not,
> >  Creative DVD - Not !
> > 5) USR modem - Yes,
> >  3Com NIC - Yes,
> >  AMD Athlon CPU, - Yes
> >  Pioneer DVD - Yes !
> >
> > Maybe if you had purchased the right hardware instead of taking what
came in
> > the pre-assembled "box", you would have been able to run Win98. Maybe if
you
> > hadn't wasted your cash on the 2 Intel PIII 550's, you could have had a
> > totally stable Athlon 900Mhz for the same price. I understand that you
> > wasted your bucks on that SMP because you wanted to be the coolest guy
> > around, and now you have to use NT so it won't appear that your wasting
your
> > SMP money, but just live with it. Just out of curiostity, how long did
you
> > have the dual PIII system before you were told by a friend that Win98
does
> > not do SMP?
> >
> > Last note: If the best you can achieve is "crash less", you slouldn't be
> > throwing your opinions around.
> >
> > So long to another Wintel clone, Rick
> >
> > "Mark Borton" <MarkBorton@DEEPSPACENINE.COM> wrote in message
> > news:974120262.409.0.nnrp-02.c1ed3851@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > I have 4 systems
> > >
> > > a Dual PIII500 thats NEEDS win2000 to utilize its SMP
capabilities...and
> > > this machine outshines my mates PIII800 at all but the really high end
3d
> > > benchmarks where it equals them (Both off us have Geforce 2 ultras,
both
> > > using Detonator 3 drivers, mine win2k his win98SE)
> > >
> > > A PII350, and 2 P200MMX machines
> > >
> > > All the systems run faster, boot faster, crash less and are generally
> > nicer
> > > to work with now than undier 95/98....I have had no problems, no blue
> > > screens , and havent turned 1 system off since they were installed (my
> > > running time is now approching 3 months i think...possibly
longer...can`t
> > > remember when i bought 2k)
> > >
> > > As a long time user of winxx right back to V3, and as both an NT4 and
> > win2k
> > > MCSE i can say that Win2k is the platform of choice for games and
serious
> > > work....i wish "High" street computer sellers would relise the
potentiol
> > of
> > > SMP systems, you can get a cheaper system of comparable performnce now
> > using
> > > SMP than you can buy a Ghz system that does the same thing..
> > >
> > > Win2k , if your not buying shoddy clone OEM hardware is the best OS
for
> > > gaming...Get yourself an Nvida Graphics card, Creative labs sound card
and
> > > DVD decoder, a Hayes V90 "HARDWARE" modem, a couple of TRUE INTEL
> > Processors
> > > , a Gigabyte Dual Processor Board and a Netgear network adapter if
your
> > > networking (the TX310 is good) and youll never look back
> > >
> > >
>
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From: "RMS" <rsavoie1@Kiss.my.grits.spammer.home.com>
Subject: Re: Why (NOT) Win2k for gaming ?
Date: 2000/11/13
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