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Re: Why (NOT) Win2k for gaming ?

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From: Steven Burger
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 00:00
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I'd be willing to bet that the ATI Rage Fury is the culprit.  I had one and
it was very finicky until I switched to a TNT2.  ATI's drivers are junk.


"RMS" <rsavoie1@Kiss.my.grits.spammer.home.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Mark:
>
> Obviously we differ greatly regarding the hardware we like, but I do like
> your well thoughtout responses.
>
> The funny thing is, everybody gets different perspectives depending on
what
> they experience. I have an Athlon 800 on an Asus K7M that is solid as a
> rock. I have a PIII 550 on an Asus P3V4X that is solid, but balks at some
> games. The PII and PIII's at work are a pain in the ass. (I wish I had
1200
> AMD machines to monitor for a long period too see if the failure rate is
> equivelant.)
>
> I'll admit I picky, I have dozens of games, and I expect them all to run
> good (A lot of tweaking some times.). It could just as well be the fact
that
> I have an ATI Rage Fury with the PIII and a Diamond V770U with the Athlon
> that makes the difference.
>
> Either way, I do buy Intel or AMD, whichever I think is the best
performer,
> most stable, and greatest bang for the buck at the time (I've even had a
> Cyrix!).
>
> bye, Rick
>
> "Mark Borton" <MarkBorton@DEEPSPACENINE.COM> wrote in message
> news:974137281.8432.0.nnrp-13.c1ed3851@news.demon.co.uk...
> >
> > "RMS" <rsavoie1@Kiss.my.grits.spammer.home.com> wrote in message
> > news:oyTP5.37386$4U6.1886082@news1.rdc2.on.home.com...
> > > Thanks for your opinion. Since I think you are totally wrong about
> > virtually
> > > everything, I'll let everybody know how it really works (IMNSHO).
> > >
> > > I have 3 systems, Athlon 800Mhz, PIII 550Mhz, and a K6-2 400Mhz
(Enough
> of
> > > that.). I have been actually working in computer maintenance/network
> admin
> > > at a site that has 1200 clients for several years now (No MSCE,  ABCD,
> or
> > > anything else like that.).
> > >
> > > Facts:
> > > 1) Dual processor systems are for systems that run multiple
applications
> > at
> > > the same time, anything else is a waste of CPU processing power. (The
> > > exception of course is high end servers with OS's that have real
> > symetrical
> > > processing, at the kernel level, like Solaris or IBM AIX.
> > > 2) Win NT is a joke of an OS compared to any Unix OS (Just ask a real
> > > administrator.) unless your main goal is to have everything automated
> and
> > > "who cares about performance".
> > > 3) Win NT is a joke of an OS compared to Win 98 for playing games
(This
> > may
> > > be changing with Directx 8.0).
> > > 4) Hayes modem - Not,
> > >  Netgear NIC - Not,
> > >  Intel PIII CPU - Not,
> >
> > Hmm, let me see, what would i rather have, a motherboard with 2 PIII
intel
> > chips, stablilty and the use of A geforce 2 ultra with no agro, or a
> > slightly faster chip with all the hassle of shitty no support
motherboards
> > and incompatibilities with the Geforce chipsset
> >
> > >  Creative DVD - Not !
> >
> > Creative make the best in PC hardware decoders ive ever seen, no loss of
> > picture quality from interference, crisp, clear quality, and the Optical
> DTS
> > 5.1 output is a must
> >
> > > 5) USR modem - Yes,
> >
> > WHy? i didtched my USR for the Hayes, i get higher connection rates,
less
> > packet loss and far better all-round performance
> >
> > >  3Com NIC - Yes,
> >
> > Nope, Ill stick with netgear (Coz i get it free, Hubs and all)
> >
> > >  AMD Athlon CPU, - Yes
> >
> > Instablilty and low support from Motherboard manufactuers, YES
> >
> > >  Pioneer DVD - Yes !
> >
> > Thats what i have, I SAID CREATIVE DVD DECODER...(REGION FREE, TV OUTPU,
> DTS
> > 5.1 Optical OUTPUT)
> >
> > >
> > > Maybe if you had purchased the right hardware instead of taking what
> came
> > in
> > > the pre-assembled "box", you would have been able to run Win98. Maybe
if
> > you
> > > hadn't wasted your cash on the 2 Intel PIII 550's, you could have had
a
> > > totally stable Athlon 900Mhz for the same price. I understand that you
> > > wasted your bucks on that SMP because you wanted to be the coolest guy
> > > around, and now you have to use NT so it won't appear that your
wasting
> > your
> > > SMP money, but just live with it. Just out of curiostity, how long did
> you
> > > have the dual PIII system before you were told by a friend that Win98
> does
> > > not do SMP?
> > >
> > > Last note: If the best you can achieve is "crash less", you slouldn't
be
> > > throwing your opinions around.
> > >
> > > So long to another Wintel clone, Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I Built all my systems myself, and I built the Dual system specifiacally
> for
> > NT4.0...win2k just let me move from playing games on the single cpu
system
> > to using a far suppirior SMP system
> >
> > Quake 3 Arena, on my Dual PIII timedemos 1 at a higher result than my
> freind
> > Atahlon @800....and he has had a shitty time getting the geforce 2 to
run
> > stabaly under win9x
> >
> > SMP rules, INTEL though not the fastest by the long way, are far better
> than
> > AMD in the long run..until I can get a stable AMD supported motherboard
> (Or
> > find a Socket 370 AMD chip that i can get into a Slocket and fit to my
> > Gigabyte 6BXD I wont even be looking at another processor
> manufacturor.....
> >
> > i have never had 1 crash (Except the Adaptec, where have my CDs gone now
> > bug) under win2k
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: Re: Why (NOT) Win2k for gaming ?
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