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So far from the benchmarks I've seen nothing beats a V2, even though the TNT
comes mighty close.  The G200 is pretty expensive isn't it?  www.necx.com
has a Creative Labs 8MB V2 for sale, $179 I think.  I myself am still
waiting for the Banshee...  I imagine they'll be priced low considering
they're an OEM product.  Just gotta keep waiting.

-dgenius

Alex Le Heux wrote in message <35D3FE7D.543740A4@funk.org>...
>Hi,
>
>I will buy myself a 3d card soon, and I'm wondering if I should get a
>Voodoo2 or a G200 card. I currently have a Millenium-II, so the G200
>would replace that. I'm planning to get one with 12mb ram on it.
>
>I've been trying to find a comprehensive comparison of the two cards for
>gaming, but could't really find one.
>
>I would appreciate it if someone could put me on the right track.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Alex

dgenius wrote in message <6r1117$440$1@news-1.news.gte.net>...
>So far from the benchmarks I've seen nothing beats a V2, even though the
TNT
>comes mighty close.  The G200 is pretty expensive isn't it?  www.necx.com
>has a Creative Labs 8MB V2 for sale, $179 I think.  I myself am still
>waiting for the Banshee...  I imagine they'll be priced low considering
>they're an OEM product.  Just gotta keep waiting.
>


G200 expensive?

Over here they are cheaper than the Millennium II was, and they have all the
3D bits and bobs to!!!!

A Voodoo 2 is twice as much as the 2D card again, although a G200 is kinda
equivalent to a Voodoo 1.5 with worse support!

Mark Taylor

MRT@DSDLTD.CO.UK

    Don't bother with the G200, I have one myself. It's a good card, but not
a lot better than the Millenium you already have. The Voodoo2 will give you
awesome speed as well as true OpenGL support right out of the box. I don't
know what kind of Processor you are running, but if you are running a K6-2
or P2 you really will see amazing frame rates over the G200.

    PD

Alex Le Heux wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I will buy myself a 3d card soon, and I'm wondering if I should get a
> Voodoo2 or a G200 card. I currently have a Millenium-II, so the G200
> would replace that. I'm planning to get one with 12mb ram on it.
>
> I've been trying to find a comprehensive comparison of the two cards for
> gaming, but could't really find one.
>
> I would appreciate it if someone could put me on the right track.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alex

Here in the UK, a Matrox Millennium G200 comes in at �89 +vat. A Voodoo II
of same memory configuration comes in at around �140. Add to this the fac
that Computer Shopper UK benchmarked the G200 faster than a Voodoo II and
gave it their best buy award, I know which one I'm buying. The days of the
standalone 3D card are numbered, as manufacturers push for a common
standard, such as Direct3D or OpenGL, both of which the Millennium G200
supports. Voodoo II just has too much silicon to warrant it; combined with
the image degradation its pass through cable adds, AND the take up of
another PCI slot, it just doesn't add up. Millennium G200 is gonna knock all
the crap ATI cards for six as well. I'm looking to see a review of PowerVR
II, TNT and Savage first, though.

Ethno

    I have both a G200 and Voodoo2, there is absolutely NO comparison between
these two cards. If you are serious about gaming, get the Voodoo2, if you think
you MAY play a game or two once in a while, the G200 will suit you just fine.
The G200 is a little better than a Voodoo1, but does not compare to Voodoo2 in
terms of speed or picture quality, period.

    PD

Ethno wrote:

> Here in the UK, a Matrox Millennium G200 comes in at �89 +vat. A Voodoo II
> of same memory configuration comes in at around �140. Add to this the fac
> that Computer Shopper UK benchmarked the G200 faster than a Voodoo II and
> gave it their best buy award, I know which one I'm buying. The days of the
> standalone 3D card are numbered, as manufacturers push for a common
> standard, such as Direct3D or OpenGL, both of which the Millennium G200
> supports. Voodoo II just has too much silicon to warrant it; combined with
> the image degradation its pass through cable adds, AND the take up of
> another PCI slot, it just doesn't add up. Millennium G200 is gonna knock all
> the crap ATI cards for six as well. I'm looking to see a review of PowerVR
> II, TNT and Savage first, though.
>
> Ethno

The i740 benchmarked higher than a V2 as well, but that's only because it
implements one little thing that games rarely use a lot better.  In
real-world tests, nothing beats a V2, and you're not going to be able to
enjoy Glide with a G200.  Make sure you find some frame-rate tests before
you make a bad decision.  The days of pass-through degradation are gone as
well with the Canopus Witchdoctor, it makes the 3DFX signal pass through it,
instead of vice versa.  It doesn't use a pass through cable either, it has a
ribbon cable that you connect inside the computer to the SLI connector.  You
are right in saying that the days of the stand-alone 3D card are numbered.
As far as I know all the rest of 3DFX's projects will be 2D/3D solutions.
The Banshee is going to be the first of these.  I wouldn't buy a G200
because a lot of games have software support, and the only hardware
acceleration is in Glide.

-dgenius

Ethno wrote in message
<903118871.11901.0.nnrp-01.d4e4550d@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Here in the UK, a Matrox Millennium G200 comes in at �89 +vat. A Voodoo II
>of same memory configuration comes in at around �140. Add to this the fac
>that Computer Shopper UK benchmarked the G200 faster than a Voodoo II and
>gave it their best buy award, I know which one I'm buying. The days of the
>standalone 3D card are numbered, as manufacturers push for a common
>standard, such as Direct3D or OpenGL, both of which the Millennium G200
>supports. Voodoo II just has too much silicon to warrant it; combined with
>the image degradation its pass through cable adds, AND the take up of
>another PCI slot, it just doesn't add up. Millennium G200 is gonna knock
all
>the crap ATI cards for six as well. I'm looking to see a review of PowerVR
>II, TNT and Savage first, though.
>
>Ethno
>
>
>

Funny following up on my own post :)

Thanks for all the responses. As the extra money for the Voodoo2 isn't
really a problem, I think I'll go for a 3Dfx card.

Cheerio,

Alex

On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:08:13 +0200, Alex Le Heux <alexlh@funk.org>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I will buy myself a 3d card soon, and I'm wondering if I should get a
>Voodoo2 or a G200 card. I currently have a Millenium-II, so the G200
>would replace that. I'm planning to get one with 12mb ram on it.
>
>I've been trying to find a comprehensive comparison of the two cards for
>gaming, but could't really find one.
>
>I would appreciate it if someone could put me on the right track.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Alex

Get both.  The Voodoo2 needs a 2D card and the G200 is one of the
fastest 2D cards out there.  

On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:08:59 -0400, Paul Dardinski <agent@erols.com>
wrote:

>    I have both a G200 and Voodoo2, there is absolutely NO comparison between
>these two cards. If you are serious about gaming, get the Voodoo2, if you think
>you MAY play a game or two once in a while, the G200 will suit you just fine.
>The G200 is a little better than a Voodoo1, but does not compare to Voodoo2 in
>terms of speed or picture quality, period.
>

I also have both cards.  However, from what I can see, the G200, while
slower than the V2, DOES have better image quality.

I have the both cards too: Motoracer 2 Demo runs good on the V2, but also
good with the G200. No big differences or speed.  (on a P2 400)
It depend on the system you have.
It depend also on the game: The Need for Speed III Demo doesn't run very
fast with the G200. The game become dark, and slow.

TEG wrote in message <35d6e0f7.14173435@news>...
>On Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:08:59 -0400, Paul Dardinski <agent@erols.com>
>wrote:
>
>>    I have both a G200 and Voodoo2, there is absolutely NO comparison
between
>>these two cards. If you are serious about gaming, get the Voodoo2, if you
think
>>you MAY play a game or two once in a while, the G200 will suit you just
fine.
>>The G200 is a little better than a Voodoo1, but does not compare to
Voodoo2 in
>>terms of speed or picture quality, period.
>>
>
>I also have both cards.  However, from what I can see, the G200, while
>slower than the V2, DOES have better image quality.