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Re: FRYs/Best Data TNT2 Secrets Revealed!

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From: Kevin Behn
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:00
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Arclight wrote:

> Why is this dude defending Frye's of all places?
>
> If here worked then he should be the first one to  flame them.  If he didn't
> his reasoning becomes even more enigmatic.
>
> It sounds like he might be working for Best Data or something...

I agree...to the flaming part.  If you reread the post, never did I defend
Fry's.  Never would I defend Fry's.  Fry's was completely independent of the
issue at hand.  It could have been any retail store.  And to make sure the
record is straight, I did work there for a few months, it was a broke student
job that I took, and it was the shits.  Fry's is the shits.  Got nothing out of
it.  Every student working their way through school has had a job like this(Fast
food, retail, etc...)  But such is the life of a student...at least for those
paying their own way through school.  Anyway, I was defending Best Data, but if
you actually *read* my post, I stated that I was defending them simply because
they had done nothing wrong, or at least appeared to have done nothing wrong
according to what Mark had related at that time.  Someone who buys a cheapo card
and then finds out to his suprise that it was a cheapo card, is not that
connected in the real world...I think I used the phrase "an idiot"  He then
wrote, "do I sense a lawsuit?"  This implies that he was going to sue Best Data
for selling a cheap product for cheap.  That pissed me off.  It's akin to a
burglar sueing the homeowner for hurting his back as he stole the person's TV.
It's a BS lawsuit...it's laughable.  So I told the guy what I thought.  I then
said that since Fry's has a 30 day return policy, simply return the thing, end
of story, where's the problem.

If I was a business that was trying to make a profit, say a car dealership, and
I offered a Honda Accord for 2 grand, would you be suprised if the car was an
'88 instead of a '99.  No, you wouldn't.  The phrase is you get what you pay
for.  If this guy wanted a real TNT2, he would need to pay for it...ie about
$150 (up to $250 for a retail V770 Ultra).  The point is that you need to note
how this price is significantly more than $100.  And again, this guy was
suprised that he wasn't getting the nicer item.  So again, I pointed out that he
wasn't exactly grounded by calling him "an idiot" for thinking that he was
supposed to get the $150-$250 card for $100.  Now, if they did indeed call the
M64 a 128 bit card, then that is fraud, and Best Data does need to fix that.
It's also very possible that someone returned an M64 in a TNT2 box, and Mark
bought that, but I don't know.  Stay away from the Fry's return sticker, incase
some people don't know this.

On another note, I was almost rolling on the floor when a guy with the *alias*
of "Surfer" calls me on hiding behind the keyboard.  Hilarious!!!  If no one
sees the hypocracy here, have your friend explain it to you.  I follow a
personal policy of never saying or doing anything online that I wouldn't do in
person.  Because of this I post my true full name with everything I post.  If I
see someone doing or saying something stupid, I'll call them on it, wether
online or in person.  Actually more so in person.  I usually try and refrain
when online because of the mass attacks from any and everyone that ensue, wether
these are targeted at me or not.

Also, Shing said something like, "What kind of person will start personal attack
like this? I don't know you but i don't think expressing one's own opinion on
the web should get this kind of rude reply."

To this I say, I agree, why were you being rude to me?  Again, have your friend
explain it to you if you don't follow me.  (Something along the lines he was
expressing his opinion of himself and a business, and I was expressing my
opinion of him, learn to deal with it.)

Then Shing said, "it is not Mark's fault to fall in it. After all there is
nothing mentioning it."

It is Mark's fault, hence my point.  If Best Data was being fraudulent, then
they need to fix it and compensate for losses.  But my point is, "Buyer
beware".  It is, and always has been, part of the free market.  Any market for
that matter.  And there was, indeed, something mentioning it...the price.
Again, if someone sold me a two thousand dollar car, I would never expect it to
be a '98 or '99.  Why you ask, because common sense tells you that.

Anyway, Mark, if the box said that it was a 128 bit TNT2, then you were mislead,
but you still should have thought that something was afoot simply because the
price seemed too good to be true.  You found out later that the price was indeed
too good to be true.  Okay, enough on that.

--Kevin "Flame On" Behn
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Subject: Re: FRYs/Best Data TNT2 Secrets Revealed!
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