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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:11:21 GMT, Kevin Behn <kmbehn@2xtreme.net>
wrote the following that was on his/her mind at the time:

<snip>
>Anyway, I was defending Best Data, but if
>you actually *read* my post, I stated that I was defending them simply because
>they had done nothing wrong, 

I think you have to practice reading comprehensively. THEY made a
false claim on a retail product, that not only me, but many others
would have fallen for. Try telling that to the FTC that there is
nothing wrong with that. Maybe you just have misread my ORIGINAL
post, if that is the case then you should be ashame of yourself.

>or at least appeared to have done nothing wrong
>according to what Mark had related at that time.  Someone who buys a cheapo card
>and then finds out to his suprise that it was a cheapo card, is not that
>connected in the real world...I think I used the phrase "an idiot"  He then
>wrote, "do I sense a lawsuit?"  This implies that he was going to sue Best Data
>for selling a cheap product for cheap.  That pissed me off.  It's akin to a

If you didn't get the "do I sense a lawsuit?" then your are true sad.
HP has been working you too hard. I stated that because I was
referring to the false claim, BUT never had in the post had I had the
stubborness/seriousness to sue them. I was only kiddin.

>burglar sueing the homeowner for hurting his back as he stole the person's TV.
>It's a BS lawsuit...it's laughable.  So I told the guy what I thought.  I then
>said that since Fry's has a 30 day return policy, simply return the thing, end
>of story, where's the problem.

You digging yourself too deep into your own little bung hole. Even in
the very first post I said I was just going to return it and get a
refund. unlike Sean that had to drive 30miles to do that, I don't have
to go out of my way to return it.

>If I was a business that was trying to make a profit, say a car dealership, and
>I offered a Honda Accord for 2 grand, would you be suprised if the car was an
>'88 instead of a '99.  No, you wouldn't.  The phrase is you get what you pay
>for.  

Like Sean, if they advertised that car in the paper as a '99 model for
$2000, and ppl come in and found out that it was only a '88 model than
that would piss anyone off, that is the bottom line. A False claim is
a FALSE claim. period. Now then there is you, Kevin Behn,that goes on
to defend BEST DATA and say that "they had done nothing wrong."
You guys see where I am getting at??
If I am a idiot for being a sucker thinking this was a good price,
Then Kevin is the biggest jack ass in the world. Notice that I am not
even done with half of this reply and I am having to repeat myself
over and over again, but not only that BUT you are rearranging my
words and saying that I was too dumb to know that I could never buy a
TNT2 for $100, and that I could never buy a 99 honda for 2000$, in the
real world. What other world do you live in besides this one?

>If this guy wanted a real TNT2, he would need to pay for it...ie about
>$150 (up to $250 for a retail V770 Ultra).  The point is that you need to note
>how this price is significantly more than $100.  And again, this guy was
>suprised that he wasn't getting the nicer item.  So again, I pointed out that he
>wasn't exactly grounded by calling him "an idiot" for thinking that he was

read above, I am getting tired of repeating myself.

>supposed to get the $150-$250 card for $100.  Now, if they did indeed call the
>M64 a 128 bit card, then that is fraud, and Best Data does need to fix that.
>It's also very possible that someone returned an M64 in a TNT2 box, and Mark
>bought that, but I don't know.  Stay away from the Fry's return sticker, incase
>some people don't know this.

Oh my gosh you actually came over to my side and saw what I was trying
to get at. THEY, Best Data, PUT A M64 card in a TNT2 box. At this
point there might be some focus on what if they just really
unintentionally put a M64 in a TNT2 box. That could happen, but it
this is not the case as another poster had the very same problem.

>Also, Shing said something like, "What kind of person will start personal attack
>like this? I don't know you but i don't think expressing one's own opinion on
>the web should get this kind of rude reply."

I understand what Shing is trying to do. Kevin and I know that Kevin
is a d.a. and he is just trying to get noticed. 

>To this I say, I agree, why were you being rude to me?  Again, have your friend
>explain it to you if you don't follow me.  (Something along the lines he was
>expressing his opinion of himself and a business, and I was expressing my
>opinion of him, learn to deal with it.)
>
>Then Shing said, "it is not Mark's fault to fall in it. After all there is
>nothing mentioning it."
>
>It is Mark's fault, hence my point.  If Best Data was being fraudulent, then
>they need to fix it and compensate for losses.  But my point is, "Buyer
>beware".  It is, and always has been, part of the free market.  Any market for

Oh Kevin you had it for a moment and now you have loss it. One more
time: THEY, Best Data, PUT A M64 card in a TNT2 box.
Yes Best Data is being fraudulent, Yes they need to fix it and
compensate for losses. "But" ?? Wow. even after that you are still
defending them.

>that matter.  And there was, indeed, something mentioning it...the price.
>Again, if someone sold me a two thousand dollar car, I would never expect it to
>be a '98 or '99.  Why you ask, because common sense tells you that.

Your common sense needs tweaking. Ex:
Recent Salvaged titles are lucky if they even sell at that price.

>Anyway, Mark, if the box said that it was a 128 bit TNT2, then you were mislead,
>but you still should have thought that something was afoot simply because the
>price seemed too good to be true.  You found out later that the price was indeed
>too good to be true.  Okay, enough on that.

You say mislead like it was no big deal. And then you go on to say
that I should have for some unknown reason should not have brought the
product because even thought it CLAIM to be a REAL TNT2 card, it just
might not be. 
"if the box said that it was a 128 bit TNT2, then you were mislead,
but you still should have thought that something was afoot"

Some things afoot alright. This one is too easy. Fill in the blank
__here__. ;-)
I know you will post another "you should have know..." So here is my
respond to your simulated future post: (prediction gathered from past
posts)

Kevin-"But like I said before you were just too ignorant of the
subject to know that that should not have been a TNT2 card."

Mark-"I can't seem to win with your single tracked mind. Say what you
will. But you don't know wtf you are talking about. Good day."

You can ask your friends what "wtf" means if needed. Why am I still
replying? Because Kevin needs to see the light.
I think that about covers it, for now. ;-)
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