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Article #305Re: FRYs/Best Data TNT2 Secrets Revealed!
From: Omni�
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:00
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:00
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I was sold a vanta and the sales lady said "its a tnt2 for $165" I assumed it to be the real thing I said "yes please" anyway now that I have it its not that BAD A CARD REALLY !! I only have a 15" screen and by the time I can afford a 19" the geforce will be affordable too lol (dream on) Mark wrote in message <37de19d5.15497978@news.ucdavis.edu>... >On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:11:21 GMT, Kevin Behn <kmbehn@2xtreme.net> >wrote the following that was on his/her mind at the time: > ><snip> >>Anyway, I was defending Best Data, but if >>you actually *read* my post, I stated that I was defending them simply because >>they had done nothing wrong, > >I think you have to practice reading comprehensively. THEY made a >false claim on a retail product, that not only me, but many others >would have fallen for. Try telling that to the FTC that there is >nothing wrong with that. Maybe you just have misread my ORIGINAL >post, if that is the case then you should be ashame of yourself. > >>or at least appeared to have done nothing wrong >>according to what Mark had related at that time. Someone who buys a cheapo card >>and then finds out to his suprise that it was a cheapo card, is not that >>connected in the real world...I think I used the phrase "an idiot" He then >>wrote, "do I sense a lawsuit?" This implies that he was going to sue Best Data >>for selling a cheap product for cheap. That pissed me off. It's akin to a > >If you didn't get the "do I sense a lawsuit?" then your are true sad. >HP has been working you too hard. I stated that because I was >referring to the false claim, BUT never had in the post had I had the >stubborness/seriousness to sue them. I was only kiddin. > >>burglar sueing the homeowner for hurting his back as he stole the person's TV. >>It's a BS lawsuit...it's laughable. So I told the guy what I thought. I then >>said that since Fry's has a 30 day return policy, simply return the thing, end >>of story, where's the problem. > >You digging yourself too deep into your own little bung hole. Even in >the very first post I said I was just going to return it and get a >refund. unlike Sean that had to drive 30miles to do that, I don't have >to go out of my way to return it. > >>If I was a business that was trying to make a profit, say a car dealership, and >>I offered a Honda Accord for 2 grand, would you be suprised if the car was an >>'88 instead of a '99. No, you wouldn't. The phrase is you get what you pay >>for. > >Like Sean, if they advertised that car in the paper as a '99 model for >$2000, and ppl come in and found out that it was only a '88 model than >that would piss anyone off, that is the bottom line. A False claim is >a FALSE claim. period. Now then there is you, Kevin Behn,that goes on >to defend BEST DATA and say that "they had done nothing wrong." >You guys see where I am getting at?? >If I am a idiot for being a sucker thinking this was a good price, >Then Kevin is the biggest jack ass in the world. Notice that I am not >even done with half of this reply and I am having to repeat myself >over and over again, but not only that BUT you are rearranging my >words and saying that I was too dumb to know that I could never buy a >TNT2 for $100, and that I could never buy a 99 honda for 2000$, in the >real world. What other world do you live in besides this one? > >>If this guy wanted a real TNT2, he would need to pay for it...ie about >>$150 (up to $250 for a retail V770 Ultra). The point is that you need to note >>how this price is significantly more than $100. And again, this guy was >>suprised that he wasn't getting the nicer item. So again, I pointed out that he >>wasn't exactly grounded by calling him "an idiot" for thinking that he was > >read above, I am getting tired of repeating myself. > >>supposed to get the $150-$250 card for $100. Now, if they did indeed call the >>M64 a 128 bit card, then that is fraud, and Best Data does need to fix that. >>It's also very possible that someone returned an M64 in a TNT2 box, and Mark >>bought that, but I don't know. Stay away from the Fry's return sticker, incase >>some people don't know this. > >Oh my gosh you actually came over to my side and saw what I was trying >to get at. THEY, Best Data, PUT A M64 card in a TNT2 box. At this >point there might be some focus on what if they just really >unintentionally put a M64 in a TNT2 box. That could happen, but it >this is not the case as another poster had the very same problem. > >>Also, Shing said something like, "What kind of person will start personal attack >>like this? I don't know you but i don't think expressing one's own opinion on >>the web should get this kind of rude reply." > >I understand what Shing is trying to do. Kevin and I know that Kevin >is a d.a. and he is just trying to get noticed. > >>To this I say, I agree, why were you being rude to me? Again, have your friend >>explain it to you if you don't follow me. (Something along the lines he was >>expressing his opinion of himself and a business, and I was expressing my >>opinion of him, learn to deal with it.) >> >>Then Shing said, "it is not Mark's fault to fall in it. After all there is >>nothing mentioning it." >> >>It is Mark's fault, hence my point. If Best Data was being fraudulent, then >>they need to fix it and compensate for losses. But my point is, "Buyer >>beware". It is, and always has been, part of the free market. Any market for > >Oh Kevin you had it for a moment and now you have loss it. One more >time: THEY, Best Data, PUT A M64 card in a TNT2 box. >Yes Best Data is being fraudulent, Yes they need to fix it and >compensate for losses. "But" ?? Wow. even after that you are still >defending them. > >>that matter. And there was, indeed, something mentioning it...the price. >>Again, if someone sold me a two thousand dollar car, I would never expect it to >>be a '98 or '99. Why you ask, because common sense tells you that. > >Your common sense needs tweaking. Ex: >Recent Salvaged titles are lucky if they even sell at that price. > >>Anyway, Mark, if the box said that it was a 128 bit TNT2, then you were mislead, >>but you still should have thought that something was afoot simply because the >>price seemed too good to be true. You found out later that the price was indeed >>too good to be true. Okay, enough on that. > >You say mislead like it was no big deal. And then you go on to say >that I should have for some unknown reason should not have brought the >product because even thought it CLAIM to be a REAL TNT2 card, it just >might not be. >"if the box said that it was a 128 bit TNT2, then you were mislead, >but you still should have thought that something was afoot" > >Some things afoot alright. This one is too easy. Fill in the blank >__here__. ;-) >I know you will post another "you should have know..." So here is my >respond to your simulated future post: (prediction gathered from past >posts) > >Kevin-"But like I said before you were just too ignorant of the >subject to know that that should not have been a TNT2 card." > >Mark-"I can't seem to win with your single tracked mind. Say what you >will. But you don't know wtf you are talking about. Good day." > >You can ask your friends what "wtf" means if needed. Why am I still >replying? Because Kevin needs to see the light. >I think that about covers it, for now. ;-) >Don't you just love usenet?
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