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On Thu, 26 Dec 1996 12:35:41 +0000, "David.Hedges"
<david.hedges@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:

>In the news article dated 24 Dec 1996, it was said by
>chris@abint.demon.co.uk (Chris Jones) that ...
>
>
>>> >
>>> You say you have upgraded "many" times but bugs rarely show up. 
>
>If you wish to quote me, please do say accurately. what I said was
>
> As to upgrades, I have upgraded my version more times that I care to
>remember all ways smoothly and without trouble.
>
>This was in balance to remarks concerning the upgrades always giving
>problems.
>
I downloaded four "upgrades" in as many weeks.  They weren't written
because of added features etc (nobody's that quick!) but to fix bugs.
Nobody brings out a "upgrade" every week.  Let's call a patch a patch,
shall we?
>
>>> Why
>>> then did you upgrade at all?  NetcGold (or is that NetcBRASS) has only
>>> recently came onto the market and there have been many upgrades (as
>>> you say) precisely because of the many bugs.....
>>> 
>
>I guess when someone sucumbs to cheap sarcasm, it shows lack of facts to
>support knowledge. 
>
I apologise if you were offended by this.  It was simply my effort to
lighten the mood.  I assure you it wasn't aimed at you but rather that
the program itself.  I still believe that those people at Netcetera
should have named it "NetcBrass" rather than "NetcGold".  You are not
connected to Netcetera, are you?

>I bought copy no 323 of Agent, so guess I must have
>done so within in days of it going on sale. In fact I was using Netcetera
>some months before that, so as you can see it has been around for some
>time. In case you are wondering my son wanted to try Agent on his computer.
>
I remember trying Netcetera when it first came out 18 months/2 years
ago.  I left it then to go to FreeAgent and recently retried NetcGold
(big mistake!).  FreeAgent has been around since the year dot.

>Why does one upgrade, mainly to take advantage of the many inhancements
>that have taken place, it has come a long way since version 1.59 which I
>started with. I will no doubt see you take advantage of the future
>upgrades to Agent, so by you logic will that mean you consider Agent
>defective. 
>
WHAT!!!!!  I have upgraded many programs many times but..... to add
extra features and NOT to get them working properly.  There is a vast
difference between upgrades and patches.
>>> >
>>> Really!  NetcPlus is a Visual Basic program.  There IS a speed
>>> difference.  This point is self evident to any programmer (as I am),
>>> unless the people at NetcPlus have somehow got 110% performance out of
>>> this language.
>
>Fine so you are a programmer and can argue on theory, which I have little
>or no knowledge of prgramming  so I can't. What I can say and did was that
>in practice I could detect no difference in speed on my system between the
>two. I consider myself an average user, using and average system and
>therefore commented on my observation using both products. Of course apart
>from the language Netcetera does downlaod in a different way to Agent, It
>doesn't get the headers than go back for the message body, and it does the
>threading offline after the messages have been collected, this may account
>for why *I* see no differenve in speed. After all I am only concerned
>about how long the program uses the phone line for.
>
I can immediately work on Agent as soon as I disconnect.  With
NetcGold I have to wait several minutes for the articles to be
threaded.  My computer is down during that time . The articles in
Agent are threaded so much faster.  This is the difference when using
a language like Basic.   Also try the search facility and "find next
unread article" when wading through thousands of articles.  You may be
only concerned at how long the program uses the phone but my time is
valuable and cannot spare it waiting for a program such as NetcGold to
do it's job.

>Many people will prefer one product or the other for different reasons. On
>the computer set up I have here Agent cannot do what NetcGold can, ie it
>cannot handle multiple accounts in one pass. I would not presume to tell
>people Agent was rubbish because I have found a better program for my
>needs. Both are excellent programs, I think Netcetera has more useful
>features which make it a more powerful program.
>
Agent can handle multiple accounts.  NetcGold can only handle 5 whilst
Agent can handle any number for free.  NetcGold has clashed on my
system yet again.  Rubbish?  I can only point out my own experiences.

Over the years I have tried to help people new to the Internet and a
decent newsreader is part of this.  I have been on the Internet for a
great many years (long before it was "cool") and have picked up a few
facts during that time.

When I find something seriously wrong with something, I shall warn
people.


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Regards

Chris Jones
chris@abint.demon.co.uk
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