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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:13:33 -0400, in
<i3u0l1$eel$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
<erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message 
>news:j7t3665drnnvo6j1epdv7an546mbcs7d8u@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:44:55 -0400, in
>> <i3srqb$fkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3dp2669is92a9f58ai7nih728pi8164jpf@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:45:46 -0400, in
>>>> <i3re5e$jkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:utd1665r4ab04coghfdir9rsn06cc3f5m8@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:39:32 -0400, in
>>>>>> <i3q747$ago$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>>>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:8a5166l8harrijvc3lh42u24s9h0b8r01h@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought "this class of virus" would be specific enough,
>>>>>>>> but you're right that I should have been clearer,
>>>>>>>> and I thank you for the clarification.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just curious, what did you mean by 'this class of virus' and the
>>>>>>>infection of possibly needed executables?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I meant the class of virus that implants its own executable files,
>>>>>> and protects them from most methods of removal.  Sorry for not 
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> more clear.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's okay. You are correct that self-contained replicator files 
>>>>>can
>>>>>be
>>>>>deleted outright - there is nothing there that needs to be salvaged,
>>>>>but
>>>>>Ramnit.a actually modifies (infects/trojanizes) preexisting program
>>>>>files (although not with a replicant).
>>>>
>>>> That depends on the actual problem, what the anti-virus system is or
>>>> is
>>>> not able to remove and disinfect on its own.  According to this
>>>> report:
>>>> <http://www.threatexpert.com/report.aspx?md5=074a688443faea25c2589975069de044>
>>>> Win32/RAMNIT.A modifies few essential executables.  My own 
>>>> experience
>>>> with Microsoft Security Essentials (cf OP) is that only 
>>>> non-essential
>>>> files are missed in this case.  Do you have experience to the
>>>> contrary?
>>>
>>>No, but I think I understand what you are saying now.
>>
>> I understood what I was saying in the first post, thank you very much.
>
>Oh, that's rich. The old "I knew what I meant".
>
>Unfortunately, some users might consider some non-essential files as 
>needed files and they don't always have backups of them. Your stated 
>method does nothing to retain or recover them. 

Are you rude by nature, or do you have to work at it?

-- 
John

"Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level
and then beat you with experience." -Dr. Alan Zimmerman