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Article #140Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: FromTheRafters
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:04
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:04
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"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:v5e566tpfo771brf2g3tnvpfgv8hqiv5ma@4ax.com... > On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:13:33 -0400, in > <i3u0l1$eel$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" > <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>news:j7t3665drnnvo6j1epdv7an546mbcs7d8u@4ax.com... >>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:44:55 -0400, in >>> <i3srqb$fkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" >>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> >>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>>>news:3dp2669is92a9f58ai7nih728pi8164jpf@4ax.com... >>>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:45:46 -0400, in >>>>> <i3re5e$jkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" >>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>>>>>news:utd1665r4ab04coghfdir9rsn06cc3f5m8@4ax.com... >>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:39:32 -0400, in >>>>>>> <i3q747$ago$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters" >>>>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>news:8a5166l8harrijvc3lh42u24s9h0b8r01h@4ax.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought "this class of virus" would be specific enough, >>>>>>>>> but you're right that I should have been clearer, >>>>>>>>> and I thank you for the clarification. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just curious, what did you mean by 'this class of virus' and the >>>>>>>>infection of possibly needed executables? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I meant the class of virus that implants its own executable >>>>>>> files, >>>>>>> and protects them from most methods of removal. Sorry for not >>>>>>> being >>>>>>> more clear. >>>>>> >>>>>>That's okay. You are correct that self-contained replicator files >>>>>>can >>>>>>be >>>>>>deleted outright - there is nothing there that needs to be >>>>>>salvaged, >>>>>>but >>>>>>Ramnit.a actually modifies (infects/trojanizes) preexisting >>>>>>program >>>>>>files (although not with a replicant). >>>>> >>>>> That depends on the actual problem, what the anti-virus system is >>>>> or >>>>> is >>>>> not able to remove and disinfect on its own. According to this >>>>> report: >>>>> <http://www.threatexpert.com/report.aspx?md5=074a688443faea25c2589975069de044> >>>>> Win32/RAMNIT.A modifies few essential executables. My own >>>>> experience >>>>> with Microsoft Security Essentials (cf OP) is that only >>>>> non-essential >>>>> files are missed in this case. Do you have experience to the >>>>> contrary? >>>> >>>>No, but I think I understand what you are saying now. >>> >>> I understood what I was saying in the first post, thank you very >>> much. >> >>Oh, that's rich. The old "I knew what I meant". >> >>Unfortunately, some users might consider some non-essential files as >>needed files and they don't always have backups of them. Your stated >>method does nothing to retain or recover them. > > Are you rude by nature, or do you have to work at it? I took the statement "I understood what I was saying in the first post, thank you very much." as rude and responded in kind. Good bye.
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