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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:04:27 -0400, in
<i3uhme$qrv$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
<erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message 
>news:v5e566tpfo771brf2g3tnvpfgv8hqiv5ma@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:13:33 -0400, in
>> <i3u0l1$eel$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>
>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>news:j7t3665drnnvo6j1epdv7an546mbcs7d8u@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:44:55 -0400, in
>>>> <i3srqb$fkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:3dp2669is92a9f58ai7nih728pi8164jpf@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 07:45:46 -0400, in
>>>>>> <i3re5e$jkc$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>>>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:utd1665r4ab04coghfdir9rsn06cc3f5m8@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 20:39:32 -0400, in
>>>>>>>> <i3q747$ago$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "FromTheRafters"
>>>>>>>> <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:8a5166l8harrijvc3lh42u24s9h0b8r01h@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought "this class of virus" would be specific enough,
>>>>>>>>>> but you're right that I should have been clearer,
>>>>>>>>>> and I thank you for the clarification.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Just curious, what did you mean by 'this class of virus' and the
>>>>>>>>>infection of possibly needed executables?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I meant the class of virus that implants its own executable 
>>>>>>>> files,
>>>>>>>> and protects them from most methods of removal.  Sorry for not
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> more clear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's okay. You are correct that self-contained replicator files
>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>deleted outright - there is nothing there that needs to be 
>>>>>>>salvaged,
>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>Ramnit.a actually modifies (infects/trojanizes) preexisting 
>>>>>>>program
>>>>>>>files (although not with a replicant).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That depends on the actual problem, what the anti-virus system is 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not able to remove and disinfect on its own.  According to this
>>>>>> report:
>>>>>> <http://www.threatexpert.com/report.aspx?md5=074a688443faea25c2589975069de044>
>>>>>> Win32/RAMNIT.A modifies few essential executables.  My own
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> with Microsoft Security Essentials (cf OP) is that only
>>>>>> non-essential
>>>>>> files are missed in this case.  Do you have experience to the
>>>>>> contrary?
>>>>>
>>>>>No, but I think I understand what you are saying now.
>>>>
>>>> I understood what I was saying in the first post, thank you very 
>>>> much.
>>>
>>>Oh, that's rich. The old "I knew what I meant".
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, some users might consider some non-essential files as
>>>needed files and they don't always have backups of them. Your stated
>>>method does nothing to retain or recover them.
>>
>> Are you rude by nature, or do you have to work at it?
>
>I took the statement "I understood what I was saying in the first post, 
>thank you very much." as rude and responded in kind.

When you treat someone with discourtesy,
it's a bit disingenuous to complain about some mild pushback.

>Good bye.

Good bye to you too.

-- 
John

"Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level
and then beat you with experience." -Dr. Alan Zimmerman