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Article #199Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: John Slade
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:17
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:17
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On 8/2/2010 11:27 AM, Dustin wrote:
> John Slade<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:8ND5o.33941$o27.31443@newsfe08.iad:
>
>> On 8/1/2010 6:57 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Xyo5o.41721$OU6.25986@newsfe20.iad...
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>> I don't know why you would find it funny because a virus writer
>>>>>> will use anything to hide a virus. What smarter way is to hide
>>>>>> them in each and every folder in "system volume information"?
>>>
>>>> I didn't know Dustin Cook existed until he responded for you.
>>>> But I've
>>>> been reading some in alt.comp.viruses and I find it
>>>> well...interesting... If he wrote viruses then he more than anyone
>>>> should know that what I said happened is indeed possible.
>>>
>>> Because he understands true viruses, he knows that they don't need
>>> to hide themselves in folders.
>>>
>>> I don't think he would have said what he said if you had said
>>> worms, or malware, instead of viruses.
>>
>> Well "virus" is a generic term these days. I was talking
>> about worms and/or trojans, I was using "virus" as a generic
>> term. I guess that clears it up.
>
> virus isn't a generic term, then or now. As a professional, I think it
> unwise of you to generalize what might be ailing the patient.
>
"Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do
you think they call the software used to clean trojans and
worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they
only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a
matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware
vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because
it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this?
John
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