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Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?

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From: John Slade
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:18
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On 8/2/2010 11:57 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net>
>
> | On 8/1/2010 6:57 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>> "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net>   wrote in message
>>> news:Xyo5o.41721$OU6.25986@newsfe20.iad...
>
>>> [...]
>
>>>>>> I don't know why you would find it funny because a virus writer will use
>>>>>> anything to hide a virus. What smarter way is to hide them in each and
>>>>>> every folder in "system volume information"?
>
>>>>       I didn't know Dustin Cook existed until he responded for you. But I've
>>>> been reading some in alt.comp.viruses and I find it well...interesting...
>>>> If he wrote viruses then he more than anyone should know that what I said
>>>> happened is indeed possible.
>
>>> Because he understands true viruses, he knows that they don't need to hide
>>> themselves in folders.
>
>>> I don't think he would have said what he said if you had said worms, or
>>> malware, instead of viruses.
>
> |       Well "virus" is a generic term these days. I was talking
> | about worms and/or trojans, I was using "virus" as a generic
> | term. I guess that clears it up.
>
> The term "malware" is generic.
> The term "virus" is quite specific.
>
>

      "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do 
you think they call the software used to clean trojans and 
worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they 
only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a 
matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware 
vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because 
it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this?

John
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