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Article #218Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: John Slade
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:29
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:29
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On 8/4/2010 2:40 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "John Slade"<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:G1j6o.53362$dx7.3611@newsfe21.iad...
>
> [...]
>
>> "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term.
>> Why do you think they call the software used to clean
>> trojans and worms, "Anti-Virus" software?
>
> Generally, they call it antimalware unless it is also effective against
> viruses and worms (which are self-replicators). If it is effective
> against viruses, they call it an antivirus. Antivirus programs can also
> detect some non-replicating malware.
They call it that because it's quite common to refer to
all malware as viurses. Been this way for decades.
>
>> I'm sure you don't think that they only clean viruses
>> and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a matter
>> of semantics.
>
> Of course it is, but semantics shouldn't be a dismissive word. The
> meanings of words are *important* to effective communications.
>
It's all a matter of who you're talking to. If the person
wants to nitpick even though they know what a person means then
what can you do but explain. I've worked for people who are very
computer savvy and people who are new to computers. I use all
the terms to describe the problem and rarely hear anyone nitpick
about using the word "virus" to describe a trojan or worm. It's
just acceptable.
>> Just about all of the major anti-malware vendors have
>> products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because it just
>> stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this?
>
> We all know this, and we don't like it one bit. The fact remains that
> viruses are a special case requiring more than what many antimalware
> applications are equipped to handle.
>
It seems to anger you on some level. I don't care in
the least what they call it, as long as it does the job.
John
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