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Article #219Re: Win32/RAMNIT.A Anyone?
From: John Slade
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:39
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:39
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On 8/4/2010 9:19 PM, Dustin wrote:
> John Slade<hhitman86@pacbell.net> wrote in news:G1j6o.53362$dx7.3611
> @newsfe21.iad:
>
>> "Virus" is both a generic term and a specific term. Why do
>> you think they call the software used to clean trojans and
>> worms, "Anti-Virus" software? I'm sure you don't think that they
>> only clean viruses and leave trojans and worms alone. It's all a
>> matter of semantics. Just about all of the major anti-malware
>> vendors have products that they call Anti-Virus. This is because
>> it just stuck. You're a professional and you don't know this?
>
> The only people who think virus is a generic term are the ones who don't
> know any better and wouldn't be considered professional in my book.
The only people who really care are the people who want too
nitpick over a commonly accepted term to describe all malware. I
could see this person correcting a customer that they're using a
the wrong terminology and I can see that customer saying they
won't call that person back because they were a nerdy asshole.
I've seen it happen.
>
> The reason virus isn't a generic term is because it describes a very
> specific function and requirement of the software to be called a virus.
>
> It's obvious to me atleast that you are someone who fixes computers and
> you might even do a good job of it, but you aren't deserving of the title
> professional. I do respect the knowledge you do have, but at this time, I
> wouldn't agree with your self assessment.
>
This means absolutely nothing in the real world. Just an
opinion. I don't care what you think of me or what I do. I do
know this, I will be able to retire soon because of my work. I
also did it all on my own, built a great reputation as a nice
guy who wouldn't get bent out of shape because someone
substitutes "virus" for "malware".
A funny story. I used to work with a guy who was very
correcting of people he worked with. He would try to make
himself seem superior to people he worked for because he knew a
lot about his field. He was the kind of guy that would
repeatedly correct someone he was working for. I would work for
some of his former customers and many of them didn't want to
call him back because he was such an anal retentive asshole. But
hey he just had to be "right" all the time and refused to admit
he was wrong when he obviously was... Just a little tale to help
you reach retirement in your field...
John
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