🚀 go-pugleaf

The stoned virus is a memory resident boot virus.  Since you could
not boot from a floppy, what could have happen is that after you
disinfected the boot sector etc., the virus, while still being resident
in the memory may have just reinfected the just disinfected boot
sector.

This was the common case at the school that hired me to take care
of these types of things.

Kevin


Irene Lowe wrote in message <356AA597.1F258B7D@nettrek.com.au>...
>Hello to everyone,
>
>I have a strange problem.  A friend has an old XT. It somehow was
>infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
>computer became useless.
>
>She asked me to fix the problem and it turned out to be the virus.
>Because the unit still uses 5 1/4 inch floppies, I was able to find an
>old version of McAfee's Virus Scan and Virus Clean which would work on
>her machine. I completely scanned and cleaned the hard drive and also
>all the 5 1/4 inch floppies she had.
>
>A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has returned
>from nowhere.  I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.  There
>was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the drive
>and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself on
>the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned me
>tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again. I
>suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way of
>recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?
>
>If anyone could help me solve this puzzle, please can you email me
>directly (to save the sanity of my poor friend!)
>
>Thanks all.
>
>Cheers,
>Irene Lowe
>Perth, Western Australia

Irene Lowe (icypole@nettrek.com.au) wrote:
: Hello to everyone,

: I have a strange problem.  A friend has an old XT. It somehow was
: infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
: computer became useless.

: She asked me to fix the problem and it turned out to be the virus. 
: Because the unit still uses 5 1/4 inch floppies, I was able to find an
: old version of McAfee's Virus Scan and Virus Clean which would work on
: her machine. I completely scanned and cleaned the hard drive and also
: all the 5 1/4 inch floppies she had.

: A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has returned
: from nowhere.  I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.  There
: was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the drive
: and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself on
: the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned me
: tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again. I
: suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way of
: recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?

3 possibilities as i see it...

1) a dropper is present (a dropper is a program that injects the virus 
into the clean system)..
2) scan/clean didn't really clean the machine or there was a disk that 
was missed or otherwise not cleaned... 
3) amazing as it sounds perhaps she's (or someone else) using her disks in 
another (infected) machine that you've as yet not been made aware of...

: If anyone could help me solve this puzzle, please can you email me
: directly (to save the sanity of my poor friend!)

for number one, try a different scanner - droppers attempt to hide the 
virus but they don't necessarily succeed to hide it from all scanners...
for number 2, try a different (or newer) scanner again...
for number 3, grill her and anyone else who could possibly get access to 
the computer - apply a thin layer of barbeque sauce, turn, and then grill 
the other side...

: Thanks all.

you're welcome, hope this helps...
-- 
"do as i say not as i do because 
 the shit so deep you can't run away
 i beg to differ on the contrary
 i agree with every word that you say"

Richard RUDEK wrote:

> Irene Lowe <icypole@nettrek.com.au> wrote:
>
> >Hello to everyone,
> >
> >I have a strange problem.  A friend has an old XT. It somehow was
> >infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
> >computer became useless.
> >
> [snip]
>
> >
> >A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has
> returned
> >from nowhere.  I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.
> There
> >was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the
> drive
> >and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself
> on
> >the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned
> me
> >tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again. I
> >suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way
> of
> >recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?
>
> [snip]
>
> No, but it can install itself multiple times, on the same file. When
> you
> clean, ensure you rerun SCAN and CLEAN until it finds no further
> copies.

I'm sure Richard really wanted to help Irene here... but, people should
reallybe sure that they know what they are talking about. Stoned is a
mbr / boot
virus, so it can't infect files.

If the virus is the stoned standard, there are only three posibilities:

- Irene didn't really disinfect the mbr.
- Some floppy remained infected.
- There are some stoned-dropper file in your hard disk so when you
   execute it the mbr becomes infected again.

But I think that you don't really have the stoned.standard, because you
say the hard disk became useless, and the stoned virus does not harm
the hard disk at all. May be some version... Get a real good antivirus,
(forget scan an Mcaffe), find out what virus has infected the hard disk
and post your message again. I'll be around to help you.

You can find links to antivirus sites in my web page:

Jose A. Sobrino Crego
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/9955/

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Hello -

Stoned virus is a strange one that can cause severe damages...

If infects fixed disk partition table, floppy diskette boot sector and
installs himself in memory.

It can corrupts directly or not file linkage, corrupts or overwrites boot
sector and affects system run-time operation.

Try this procedure (it helped me get rid of "a Stoned virus epydemia" in one
of our classroom PC lab for our students few years ago):


  1. 1 -    Back-up all critical files that you don't want to lose (only
     non-systems files)
  2. 2 -    Turn off your computer
  3. 3 -    Restart it from a clean boot diskette
  4. 4 -    Use CLEAN  program to clean disk
  5. 5 -    Turn off computer
  6. 6 -    Turn it on with a clean boot diskette
  7. 7 -    Do a low-level format of the hard drive
  8. 8 -    Do FDISK command
  9. 9 -    Do FORMAT C: /S
 10. 10-    Turn off computer
 11. 11-    Restart it without boot diskette
 12. 12-    Reinstall complete MS DOS and others softwares
 13. 13-    Copy your backup files

N.B. If CLEAN program doesn't work, try find M-DISK utility (an older program,
done by McAfee)...

I hope these steps can help you and your friend.


--
Maryse Dumas
Technicienne en informatique
Services administratifs (informatique)
Coll�ge de Sherbrooke
Sherbrooke, Qc
Canada
e-mail:dumasma@collegesherbrooke.qc.ca



Kurt Wismer wrote:

> Irene Lowe (icypole@nettrek.com.au) wrote:
> : Hello to everyone,
>
> : I have a strange problem.  A friend has an old XT. It somehow was
> : infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
> : computer became useless.
>
> : She asked me to fix the problem and it turned out to be the virus.
> : Because the unit still uses 5 1/4 inch floppies, I was able to find an
> : old version of McAfee's Virus Scan and Virus Clean which would work on
> : her machine. I completely scanned and cleaned the hard drive and also
> : all the 5 1/4 inch floppies she had.
>
> : A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has returned
> : from nowhere.  I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.  There
> : was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the drive
> : and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself on
> : the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned me
> : tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again. I
> : suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way of
> : recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?
>
> 3 possibilities as i see it...
>
> 1) a dropper is present (a dropper is a program that injects the virus
> into the clean system)..
> 2) scan/clean didn't really clean the machine or there was a disk that
> was missed or otherwise not cleaned...
> 3) amazing as it sounds perhaps she's (or someone else) using her disks in
> another (infected) machine that you've as yet not been made aware of...
>
> : If anyone could help me solve this puzzle, please can you email me
> : directly (to save the sanity of my poor friend!)
>
> for number one, try a different scanner - droppers attempt to hide the
> virus but they don't necessarily succeed to hide it from all scanners...
> for number 2, try a different (or newer) scanner again...
> for number 3, grill her and anyone else who could possibly get access to
> the computer - apply a thin layer of barbeque sauce, turn, and then grill
> the other side...
>
> : Thanks all.
>
> you're welcome, hope this helps...
> --
> "do as i say not as i do because
>  the shit so deep you can't run away
>  i beg to differ on the contrary
>  i agree with every word that you say"




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Hello -

<P>Stoned virus is a strange one that can cause severe damages...

<P>If infects fixed disk partition table, floppy diskette boot sector and
installs himself in memory.

<P>It can corrupts directly or not file linkage, corrupts or overwrites
boot sector and affects system run-time operation.

<P>Try this procedure (it helped me get rid of "a Stoned virus epydemia"
in one of our classroom PC lab for our students few years ago):
<BR>&nbsp;
<OL>
<LI>
1 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Back-up all critical files that you don't want to
lose (only non-systems files)</LI>

<LI>
2 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Turn off your computer</LI>

<LI>
3 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Restart it from a clean boot diskette</LI>

<LI>
4 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Use CLEAN&nbsp; program to clean disk</LI>

<LI>
5 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Turn off computer</LI>

<LI>
6 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Turn it on with a clean boot diskette</LI>

<LI>
7 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do a low-level format of the hard drive</LI>

<LI>
8 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do FDISK command</LI>

<LI>
9 -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do FORMAT C: /S</LI>

<LI>
10-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Turn off computer</LI>

<LI>
11-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Restart it without boot diskette</LI>

<LI>
12-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reinstall complete MS DOS and others softwares</LI>

<LI>
13-&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Copy your backup files</LI>
</OL>
N.B. If CLEAN program doesn't work, try find M-DISK utility (an older program,
done by McAfee)...

<P>I hope these steps can help you and your friend.
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>--
<BR>Maryse Dumas
<BR>Technicienne en informatique
<BR>Services administratifs (informatique)
<BR>Coll&egrave;ge de Sherbrooke
<BR>Sherbrooke, Qc
<BR>Canada
<BR>e-mail:dumasma@collegesherbrooke.qc.ca
<BR>&nbsp;
<BR>&nbsp;

<P>Kurt Wismer wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Irene Lowe (icypole@nettrek.com.au) wrote:
<BR>: Hello to everyone,

<P>: I have a strange problem.&nbsp; A friend has an old XT. It somehow
was
<BR>: infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
<BR>: computer became useless.

<P>: She asked me to fix the problem and it turned out to be the virus.
<BR>: Because the unit still uses 5 1/4 inch floppies, I was able to find
an
<BR>: old version of McAfee's Virus Scan and Virus Clean which would work
on
<BR>: her machine. I completely scanned and cleaned the hard drive and
also
<BR>: all the 5 1/4 inch floppies she had.

<P>: A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has returned
<BR>: from nowhere.&nbsp; I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.&nbsp;
There
<BR>: was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the
drive
<BR>: and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself
on
<BR>: the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned
me
<BR>: tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again.
I
<BR>: suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way
of
<BR>: recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?

<P>3 possibilities as i see it...

<P>1) a dropper is present (a dropper is a program that injects the virus
<BR>into the clean system)..
<BR>2) scan/clean didn't really clean the machine or there was a disk that
<BR>was missed or otherwise not cleaned...
<BR>3) amazing as it sounds perhaps she's (or someone else) using her disks
in
<BR>another (infected) machine that you've as yet not been made aware of...

<P>: If anyone could help me solve this puzzle, please can you email me
<BR>: directly (to save the sanity of my poor friend!)

<P>for number one, try a different scanner - droppers attempt to hide the
<BR>virus but they don't necessarily succeed to hide it from all scanners...
<BR>for number 2, try a different (or newer) scanner again...
<BR>for number 3, grill her and anyone else who could possibly get access
to
<BR>the computer - apply a thin layer of barbeque sauce, turn, and then
grill
<BR>the other side...

<P>: Thanks all.

<P>you're welcome, hope this helps...
<BR>--
<BR>"do as i say not as i do because
<BR>&nbsp;the shit so deep you can't run away
<BR>&nbsp;i beg to differ on the contrary
<BR>&nbsp;i agree with every word that you say"</BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp;
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Disconnecting the battery only wastes time and does not aid in removing any
of the Stoned family, or any virus for that matter.

Randy Abrams

"The opinions/views/comments on this mail are mine and do not reflect any
views or policies of Microsoft."

GroundHog wrote in message <356bab16.0@139.134.5.33>...
>Disconnect the battery - and setup the bios again then boot from a
>*write protected* virus free disk ... this way you really get rid of
>that virus!
>
>Stefan

Richard RUDEK wrote:

> Irene Lowe <icypole@nettrek.com.au> wrote:
>
> >Hello to everyone,
> >
> >I have a strange problem.  A friend has an old XT. It somehow was
> >infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
> >computer became useless.
> >
> [snip]
>
> >
> >A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has
> returned
> >from nowhere.  I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.
> There
> >was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the
> drive
> >and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself
> on
> >the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned
> me
> >tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again. I
> >suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way
> of
> >recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?
>
> [snip]
>
> No, but it can install itself multiple times, on the same file. When
> you
> clean, ensure you rerun SCAN and CLEAN until it finds no further
> copies.

I'm sure Richard really wanted to help Irene here... but, people should
reallybe sure that they know what they are talking about. Stoned is a
mbr / boot
virus, so it can't infect files.

If the virus is the stoned standard, there are only three posibilities:

- Irene didn't really disinfect the mbr.
- Some floppy remained infected.
- There are some stoned-dropper file in your hard disk so when you
   execute it the mbr becomes infected again.

But I think that you don't really have the stoned.standard, because you
say the hard disk became useless, and the stoned virus does not harm
the hard disk at all. May be some version... Get a real good antivirus,
(forget scan an McAfee), find out what virus has infected the hard disk
and post your message again. I'll be around to help you.

You can find links to antivirus sites in my web page:

Jose A. Sobrino Crego
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/9955/

Disconnect the battery - and setup the bios again then boot from a
*write protected* virus free disk ... this way you really get rid of
that virus!

Stefan
--
*COSA IT Solutions /MS-OEM/MS-SBNL2
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~billis/cohp/cohp.htm
*Billi's Designer Studio
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kreidi/Studio/billishp.htm
___________________
Nostradamus once said:
"Quia non est nostrum noscere tempora nec momenta"
[It is not for us to know the times or the instants]

Irene Lowe wrote in message <356AA597.1F258B7D@nettrek.com.au>...
>Hello to everyone,
>
>I have a strange problem.  A friend has an old XT. It somehow was
>infected with the Stoned virus and after a few months of use, the
>computer became useless.
>
>She asked me to fix the problem and it turned out to be the virus.
>Because the unit still uses 5 1/4 inch floppies, I was able to find
an
>old version of McAfee's Virus Scan and Virus Clean which would work
on
>her machine. I completely scanned and cleaned the hard drive and also
>all the 5 1/4 inch floppies she had.
>
>A few months down the track and it appears that the virus has
returned
>from nowhere.  I scanned the hard drive and there it was again.
There
>was no way that she could have used an infected floppy disk in the
drive
>and I am at a loss as to how the virus could have reinfected itself
on
>the hard drive. I cleaned it again two weeks ago and she has phoned
me
>tonight to tell me that the computer is doing silly things again. I
>suspect that the virus had done it again! Does this virus has a way
of
>recreating itself once you have cleaned the suspect disks?
>
>If anyone could help me solve this puzzle, please can you email me
>directly (to save the sanity of my poor friend!)
>
>Thanks all.
>
>Cheers,
>Irene Lowe
>Perth, Western Australia
>

"Jose A. Sobrino Crego" <jscrego@ran.es> wrote:

[snip]

>I'm sure Richard really wanted to help Irene here... but, people should
>reallybe sure that they know what they are talking about. Stoned is a
>mbr / boot
>virus, so it can't infect files.

[snip]

Damn, I thought I cancelled that one in time. Damn !

  __   __   _______________________________
 //)) //)) | Richard RUDEK. MicroDek.      | Insert sh, ah,
//\\ //\\  | Chatswood, Sydney. Australia. |  witty comment here. :)
           `-------------------------------'

In article <356C5C6F.ECA04AEB@ran.es>, jscrego@ran.es says...

>I'm sure Richard really wanted to help Irene here... but, people should
>reallybe sure that they know what they are talking about. Stoned is a
>mbr / boot
>virus, so it can't infect files.

The original "stoned" virus did just that BUT it is a very very rare
beast indeed. Early virus developers (for want of a better term :)
used this virus as a building block and it became modified to
the stage where there were hundreds of slightly different versions.
Among these hybrids _were_ executable file infectors.


>If the virus is the stoned standard, there are only three possibilities:
>
>- Irene didn't really disinfect the mbr.
>- Some floppy remained infected.
>- There are some stoned-dropper file in your hard disk so when you
>   execute it the mbr becomes infected again.
>
>But I think that you don't really have the stoned.standard, because you
>say the hard disk became useless, and the stoned virus does not harm
>the hard disk at all. 

Can I be pedantic here? The original "stoned" virus was responsible
for data destruction as o/s updates turned an otherwise
innocuous mbr infector into an fully fledged fat killer. 
If you wish to argue the point, 1st ask someone with
access to IBM's virus database or (better still) load a
copy of the original stoned virus to any modern o/s 
on three different machines. At least one machine should fall over.


>May be some version... Get a real good antivirus,
>(forget scan an Mcaffe), find out what virus has infected the hard disk
>and post your message again. I'll be around to help you.

What anti virus program do you suggest and why?

Mitch

Mitch wrote:

> >[...] Stoned is a mbr / boot virus, so it can't infect files.
>
> The original "stoned" virus did just that BUT it is a very very rare
> beast indeed. Early virus developers (for want of a better term :)
> used this virus as a building block and it became modified to
> the stage where there were hundreds of slightly different versions.
> Among these hybrids _were_ executable file infectors.

It makes no difference. If the executable file infectors are
hybrids,they are not the original stoned virus. And it's not as rare as
you
think... You'd ve susprised if you knew how many stoned
standard infections occur... even today.

> >But I think that you don't really have the stoned.standard, because
> you
> >say the hard disk became useless, and the stoned virus does not harm
> >the hard disk at all.
>
> Can I be pedantic here? The original "stoned" virus was responsible
> for data destruction as o/s updates turned an otherwise
> innocuous mbr infector into an fully fledged fat killer.
> If you wish to argue the point, 1st ask someone with
> access to IBM's virus database or (better still) load a
> copy of the original stoned virus to any modern o/s
> on three different machines. At least one machine should fall over.

Well...I don't like to argue, I did not tried to argue and I
feeluncomfortable arguing but...

1) Stoned standard infects mbr (cyl 0, head 0, sector 1)
and moves the original one to cyl 0, head 0, sector 7. No
fat there and no other data in any other sector placed in
cyl 0, head 0. The first fat starts in cyl 0, head 1, sector 2.
Where's the fat killing, then?

2) I've tested a lot of stoned infections. What's more,
I have disassembled it and I have got the code fully
commented and annotated.

3) As said before, stoned standard can't harm hard disks
by itself... But it can harm FLOPPIES, because it was
designed to infect 360 Kb. 5 1/4 inches floppies, storing
the original boot in the last sector of the root directory.
That can harm 1,2 Mb., 720 Kb. or 1,44 Mb. floppies.

I think you should explain why o/s updates can turn
the humble stoned into jack the ripper... By the way...
what do you mean by 'modern o/s'?...

> >May be some version... Get a real good antivirus,
> >(forget scan an Mcaffe), find out what virus has infected the hard
> disk
> >and post your message again. I'll be around to help you.
>
> What anti virus program do you suggest and why?

I suggest AVP, Dr. Solomon, F-Prot. The three of themworking together if
possible. Why? Easy. Because I've
tested all of them (add scan here) against a collection on
11.000 viruses and they proved to be the best to detect,
identify and clean the infected files. Scan got the worse
results by far...

Anyway, I don't see the point in arguing. I just said stoned
standard couldn't harm the hd by itself. Let's wait for
an accurate identification...

Even though I don't agree with you, yours has been a
very interesting reply and mine does not mean to
offend you or anybody else in the area.

Greetings.

-Jose Antonio Sobrino Crego-
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/9955/

Hey you, Microsoftie! Perhaps you can help with a virus I have called
Windows 95. Every day I get a message that says either "this program has
performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" or "general
protection fault in module..." or "windows has encountered a problem in
the system registry and will be shut down" or else a big blue screen
that can only be fixed with ctrl-alt-del and others ad infinitum.

Randy Abrams wrote:
> 
> Disconnecting the battery only wastes time and does not aid in removing any
> of the Stoned family, or any virus for that matter.
> 
> Randy Abrams
> 
> "The opinions/views/comments on this mail are mine and do not reflect any
> views or policies of Microsoft."
> 
> GroundHog wrote in message <356bab16.0@139.134.5.33>...
> >Disconnect the battery - and setup the bios again then boot from a
> >*write protected* virus free disk ... this way you really get rid of
> >that virus!
> >
> >Stefan

>Windows 95. Every day I get a message that says either "this program has
>performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" or "general
>protection fault in module..." or "windows has encountered a problem in
>the system registry and will be shut down" or else a big blue screen
>that can only be fixed with ctrl-alt-del and others ad infinitum.


You have either a corrupt istallation of Windows or not enough RAM or you
are trying to run too many programs or the chipset timing is too aggressive
or you have poorly manufactured components or the HDD is incompatible with
the chipset on the mainboard or the drivers for your video display are
poorly written. MS does not produce faulty product - it is fully tested.
What one has to remember is that MS has created an OS that has to operate on
many different types of computer, some of which (claim to be) 100%
compatible and they are not.

A case in point is the Chinese manufacturer of mainboards containing SRAM
cache chips with absolutely no circuitry in them.

BTW, what is the axiom about a workman and his tools?

-Peter

So far, all stoned viruses I had to remove, and some other, on client's
systems I've removes successfully! Many viruses use the battery powered
cmos to survive the power off....

Stefan
--
*COSA IT Solutions /MS-OEM/MS-SBNL2
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~billis/cohp/cohp.htm
*Billi's Designer Studio
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kreidi/Studio/billishp.htm
___________________
Nostradamus once said:
"Quia non est nostrum noscere tempora nec momenta"
[It is not for us to know the times or the instants]

Randy Abrams wrote in message <6kiae9$r2i@news.microsoft.com>...
>Disconnecting the battery only wastes time and does not aid in removing
any
>of the Stoned family, or any virus for that matter.
>
>Randy Abrams
>
>"The opinions/views/comments on this mail are mine and do not reflect any
>views or policies of Microsoft."
>
>GroundHog wrote in message <356bab16.0@139.134.5.33>...
>>Disconnect the battery - and setup the bios again then boot from a
>>*write protected* virus free disk ... this way you really get rid of
>>that virus!
>>
>>Stefan
>
>
>
>