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marge <noneofyourbusiness@excape.com> wrote in message news:<4024425E.C40@excape.com>...

>  Your counter argument works. The simple models used by Ricardo proves
> what a weak science economics still is. I've studied economics in
> graduate school and believe me, it is as weak as a science can get. They
> want the respectability of a hard science such as physics but they'll
> never get it by such simple minded half-assed models. 
> 
> Of course, programmers are innovative, but if you're not in the field,
> how can you be? There also is this hidden assumption which seems to
> suggest Indian programmers are not up to par when it comes to being
> innovative. Funny how the experts assume Indians will not be producing
> much of anything new without our help. 
> 
> I think this is all just an excuse to move jobs out. Where will the tax
> base come from in many cities and states if professionals aren't making
> decent salaries. How long before the upper classes are taxed to death to
> make up for the loss tax revenue? Then will they react? 
> 
> How many jobs were lost in our dead TV industry? In our dead VCR
> industry? Who said Japan is better in building TVs? We could have kept
> the industry but our brain damaged excutives lost the industry. We made
> up for the loss because the best and brightest we able to create new
> industries to make up for the mistake in losing our TV production. Not
> because we were better off giving Japan TV production so we could do
> better in some other field. That is so lame. 
> 
> If we keep losing and giving away one industry after another eventually
> we'll lose it. How can we remain innovative as we were even two decades
> ago? Are our children as well educated? Test scores have been dropping
> for the last 20 years. There is a flood of people into this country who
> barely score above 300 on their math SATs. Kids flooding into this
> country who can't even handle fractions in high school. 
> 
> The gene pool is changing in America and its not becoming smarter.
> Thirty years ago you had many bright kids going out into the job market,
> talented and eager to do something new. Even the music has gotten worse
> over the last 30 years. Rap is retarded music for brain dead kids. Kids
> who hate reading, who don't understand science.
> 
> Sure there are many smart children remaining, but they are becoming a
> smaller percentage of the population everyday. This magical idea we can
> always innovative better than anyone else forever is too naive for my
> taste. We've become like England of old, when they thought the sun would
> never set on the British Empire, or when France was the most important
> nation in the world, or when Germany thought it was the most powerful,
> they all couldn't imagine themselves losing their greatness. Just as we
> can't see ourselves losing it, in spite of all the signs we are.
> 
> 
> They'll say someday, it wasn't an army which finally defeated the USA.
> It was their business people from within, not unlike Rome's fall. We all
> sense it in America even though we won't see it. How many of us believe
> that America will be the most powerful nation on the eath in a 100
> years? Not many. We sense it will be China. And doesn't that scare many
> of us? We somehow sense that will not be a good thing for many peoples.
> They are not a kind people or warm people. 
> 
> It might be karma working on the US. It took the country by almost
> killing the native Indians. Maybe that is what is in store for its
> whites. To be wiped out as it wiped out to have the nation.

The intelligent people in the US are investing in emerging markets.
The US is going to remain the #1 country for a long time because MOST
of these very same companies you are outsourcing from are owned and
funded by Americans. All the Indians are doing there is working and
collecting thier sweat equity.
Intel,Microsoft, you name it and they're setting up WHOLLY owned
subsidaries in India. Which means all those Fancy profits go right
back to the US and your government gets the taxes on those profits.

The TV Industry is a perfect example of how the US lost out. The big
US companies didn't outsource fast enough to other markets and lost
out badly to Japanese brands because they were technologically
superior and BETTER and cheaper too.

HP and Intel are companies which didn't waste time and setup thier
manufacturing plants in Asia. Now they're able to beat the Asian
competition because they are producing better printers and CPU's at
the same cost.
The same thing is happening in software. US Companies are beating the
competition because they are setting up research bases in India where
they can get good quality at a very good prize.

Don't forget that the US Market isn't the main market for most Big
Corporations anymore. They sell FAR MORE in Asia and Europe than
locally , but the profits still come back to the US, because you have
the lowest taxes.