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Article #1881Re: IT Labor Shortage:...NOT
From: Kev.-
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:55
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:55
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Tim, Tell me about it I completely know where you are coming from. I remember just last year for that matter I would send out my resume and have 15 offers in a week to actually start a position. Today I cant get shit. Nothing! All I keep hearing is that the market is dry which I know they are full of shit! The market is fine if you are an H1 or are really cheap as I have been also told, but it is over if you are an American. Hey Anonymous keep the post coming awesome! I am saving this stuff! Kev.- On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:33:12 GMT, "Tim Holt" <inautix@usa.net> wrote: >Amen! You make some excellent points and comments in your post. > >The Indian H1-B's hate working for women, African Americans, and other >ethnic groups (come to think of it, they're not that thrilled working for >white American males either). > >I had an Indian H1-B working for me that was particularly surely and >uncooperative. Another (turncoat) H1-B told me that this guy in India, was >some sort of student radical leader of a group that hated America. God help >me! > >As for trying to fire some of them for: poor work, lateness, absenteeism, >surfing the web, day trading, insubordination, excessive telephone >conversations, not following/taking directions, misrepresentation, job >abandonment, etc. the HR department wont let you do it. So they sit there >collecting a $75,000+ Bonus pay check while having a grand old time. > >Their effect on the older IT consultant like myself is devastating. I've >been out of work for months with nothing in site, when just a few short >years ago, even before the so called "IT boom" I could easily get a well >paying long term consulting assignment in just days. > >Many of our young and bright IT "newbies" coming out of college are having a >tough time finding programming positions. There are stories all over the >web from kids sending out dozens and dozens of resumes with little or no >response from employers. I've noticed that many of these kids are forced to >take, QA, customer service, helpdesk, business case, etc. jobs while the >Indian H1-B gets the higher paying and more desirable skilled development >positions. > >Thanks again for your post it was very good! > > >"Public <Anonymous_Account>" <remailer@anon.xg.nu> wrote in message >news:d7c6ebb844c140b6b1ed41c14dfa7bb8@anon.xg.nu... >> The IT Labor Shortage LIE was mostly created by HR departments of large >corporations and IT body shops. H-1Bs (and the other categories of alien job >robbers) are cheaper and easier to recruit and keep. I have been told this >by several HR staff members. >> >> A true example: When I tried to remove an H-1B programmer from one of my >teams, I was told he was too profitable, due to the high markup and low >recruiting costs. Also, I was told they were guaranteed he could not leave >the company for 4 more years. Yes, I looked for the chains around his >ankles, but did not see them. It did not matter that he was slower, lied, >always missed his deadlines, and had the highest error ratio of the team. I >was not the first Project Manager to complain about him. He was just a >profitable slave. The other team members resented covering for him. I was >informed that it cost the company around $5K (including legal fees) to >recruit and hire an H-1B, but to recruit and hire a US citizen was around >$20K. Also, he was not the lowest paid team member. The big difference was >not in the salary, but in the overhead costs. >> >> Also, many H-1Bs consider it an insult to work for a woman or a person >with darker skin. In the past, I have worked with some talented H-1Bs, but >they were the cream of the crop, not the bottom of the barrel. >> >> Several professional recruiters have told me that they avoid H-1Bs because >of customer complaints. The IT body shops love H-1Bs, because they can hide >their cash cows in teams. >> >> The over importation of H-1Bs has not only deprived older US IT >professionals of continuing their careers, but has prevented many young IT >newbies from having an opportunity to start or fully develop their careers. >> >> Female IT Project Manager >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This message did not originate from the Sender address above. >> It was posted with the use of anonymizing software at >> http://anon.xg.nu >> --- >> >> > >
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