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Re: IT Labor Shortage:...NOT

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From: Kev.-
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:55
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Tim,

Tell me about it I completely know where you are coming from.  I
remember just last year for that matter I would send out my resume and
have 15 offers in a week to actually start a position.  Today I cant
get shit.  Nothing!  All I keep hearing is that the market is dry
which I know they are full of shit!  The market is fine if you are an
H1 or are really cheap as I have been also told, but it is over if you
are an American.

Hey Anonymous keep the post coming awesome!  I am saving this stuff!

Kev.-

On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:33:12 GMT, "Tim Holt" <inautix@usa.net> wrote:

>Amen!  You make some excellent points and comments in your post.
>
>The Indian H1-B's hate working for women, African Americans, and other
>ethnic groups (come to think of it, they're not that thrilled working for
>white American males either).
>
>I had an Indian H1-B working for me that was particularly surely and
>uncooperative.  Another (turncoat) H1-B told me that this guy in India, was
>some sort of student radical leader of a group that hated America.  God help
>me!
>
>As for trying to fire some of them for: poor work, lateness, absenteeism,
>surfing the web, day trading, insubordination, excessive telephone
>conversations, not following/taking directions, misrepresentation, job
>abandonment, etc. the HR department wont let you do it. So they sit there
>collecting a $75,000+ Bonus pay check while having a grand old time.
>
>Their effect on the older IT consultant like myself is devastating.  I've
>been out of work for months with nothing in site, when just a few short
>years ago, even before the so called "IT boom" I could easily get a well
>paying long term consulting assignment in just days.
>
>Many of our young and bright IT "newbies" coming out of college are having a
>tough time finding programming positions.  There are stories all over the
>web from kids sending out dozens and dozens of resumes with little or no
>response from employers.  I've noticed that many of these kids are forced to
>take, QA, customer service, helpdesk, business case, etc. jobs while the
>Indian H1-B gets the higher paying and more desirable skilled development
>positions.
>
>Thanks again for your post it was very good!
>
>
>"Public <Anonymous_Account>" <remailer@anon.xg.nu> wrote in message
>news:d7c6ebb844c140b6b1ed41c14dfa7bb8@anon.xg.nu...
>> The IT Labor Shortage LIE was mostly created by HR departments of large
>corporations and IT body shops. H-1Bs (and the other categories of alien job
>robbers) are cheaper and easier to recruit and keep. I have been told this
>by several HR staff members.
>>
>> A true example: When I tried to remove an H-1B programmer from one of my
>teams, I was told he was too profitable, due to the high markup and low
>recruiting costs. Also, I was told they were guaranteed he could not leave
>the company for 4 more years. Yes, I looked for the chains around his
>ankles, but did not see them. It did not matter that he was slower, lied,
>always missed his deadlines, and had the highest error ratio of the team. I
>was not the first Project Manager to complain about him. He was just a
>profitable slave. The other team members resented covering for him. I was
>informed that it cost the company around $5K (including legal fees) to
>recruit and hire an H-1B, but to recruit and hire a US citizen was around
>$20K. Also, he was not the lowest paid team member. The big difference was
>not in the salary, but in the overhead costs.
>>
>> Also, many H-1Bs consider it an insult to work for a woman or a person
>with darker skin. In the past, I have worked with some talented H-1Bs, but
>they were the cream of the crop, not the bottom of the barrel.
>>
>> Several professional recruiters have told me that they avoid H-1Bs because
>of customer complaints. The IT body shops love H-1Bs, because they can hide
>their cash cows in teams.
>>
>> The over importation of H-1Bs has not only deprived older US IT
>professionals of continuing their careers, but has prevented many young IT
>newbies from having an opportunity to start or fully develop their careers.
>>
>> Female IT Project Manager
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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