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Article #2052Re: The future of American IT
From: Iconoclast
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 05:22
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 05:22
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Fred Elbel wrote: > > Wed, 25 Sep 2002 > From: Prof. Norm Matloff > UC Davis > Subject: The future > > To: age discrimination/H-1B e-newsletter > > This will be one of my longer postings, but I think it is one of the > most important. I ask for your patience. > > I'm enclosing below an editorial in last week's Computerworld. The > editor had surveyed some executives who had won awards from > Computerworld -- not a very scientific sample, but with results worth > looking at. The most relevant passage is the following: > > Is the IT labor market shrinking? Most said yes...One IT > executive said it's too expensive to develop software in the U.S. > "Techno nerd" jobs will outright disappear, particularly ones in > programming and application development. But database, network and > systems administrators are safe. > > Sadly, this is basically the same advice I have been giving students > who ask me. I would differ somewhat from the executives surveyed in > certain aspects. Programming and application development jobs will > NOT "outright disappear [to overseas]," but I do believe that the > lion's share of them will be done by H-1Bs. > > As John Miano puts it: > > ...there were 202,000 [H-1B visas granted] last year and if 53% were > programmers (the last number I saw from the INS) that means there were > 106,000 H-1B programmers for [a net new] 85,000 jobs. > > How can that be? Well, some of those visas were renewals, some of the > existing jobs were cases of Americans being replaced by H-1Bs (see > below), and so on. Due to differing fiscal-year definitions, the two > numbers above aren't quite for the same time periods, and then there > are issues of job titles and definitions. > > Nevertheless, it should be clear that the percentage of new hires in > programming jobs filled by H-1Bs is much, much higher than the 28% > figure found by the Dept. of Commerce a few years ago. (That figure > itself was already startlingly high to a lot of people who aren't > immersed in the situation. > > And even though I too have been telling students that "database, > network and systems administrators are safe" for them (on the grounds > that facility with English and American culture is important for these > jobs), I'm not so sure of that either. For example, according to the > complaint filed by Guy Santiglia against Sun Microsytems (one of the > most aggressive lobbyists to get Congress to set high H-1B quotas), > Sun laid off large numbers of American SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS and > replaced them by H-1Bs. So that job category doesn't sound so safe > after all. > > That isn't even counting what I call the "blue collar-ization" of the > whole systems administrator business. Consider the two main worlds > here, Microsoft and UNIX. After Microsoft started the MCSE > "certificate" concept a few years ago, large numbers of nontechnical > people took MCSE courses, got certificates, and became technicians. A > lot of them didn't have college degrees, coming for example from jobs > at Home Depot. But in the UNIX world, people doing mostly the same > kind of work (granted, sometimes doing a bit of programming) have > generally had college degrees in CS or other technical fields. Yet > the MCSE people are basically system administrators. There is already > a trend for MCSE types to start doing UNIX too, and I believe that > that will accelerate. > > Now all of this is in direct contrast to the screaming articles in the > press just four years ago, telling our young university students to > study computer science. This was supposed to be the most lucrative, > growth-destined profession in America's future. Even those of us who > were raising dissenting voices at the time will be surprised by the > degree of implosion of this profession in the next few years, I fear. > > I've always noted that I am one of the few people on either side of > the H-1B debate who are not affected by the issue personally. I've > got this nice job with tenure, but I do feel for those who are > affected, and most of all what it is doing to morale of our young > people. There are only so many times that young people will allow the > major institutions of society -- the press, Congress, Big Business, > and yes, academia -- to lie to them. In that regard, I am also > enclosing, following the Computerworld editorial, a letter from a > member of this e-mail list, which expresses these concerns quite > eloquently. > > Norm > > http://www.computerworld.com/managementtopics/management/story/0,10801,74184,00.html > > Mapping IT's Future By PATRICIA KEEFE SEPTEMBER 16, 2002 > > We received a letter last week from a dispirited worker with 15 years > of IT experience. He's been laid off, can't find a job and expects to > leave the profession. He says the influx of cheap labor that cost him > his job is "the beginning of the dismantling of the American > technology worker." > > Coincidently, some industry pundits are strongly predicting the demise > of corporate IT departments. That will happen by 2006 or thereabouts, > according to David Foote, president of Foote Partners and a > Computerworld columnist. He and many others predict that IT will be > dispersed throughout the enterprise as part of the fabric of the > company. Business users will be capable of taking on lower-level > technical tasks, freeing a smaller core of IT staffers to focus on > analytical and strategic issues. > > Will CIOs and IT departments become obsolete? Are they morphing into > new roles? What impact will a computer-literate workforce have on > changing those roles? > > I threw those questions out to Computerworld's Premier 100 award > winners and Executive Suite community members, and an impressive 160 > of them took the time to send me some thought-provoking feedback. The > economy aside, most IT leaders remain optimistic that there will be a > role for IT. Reading over their comments, I gleaned this consensus: > > Is the IT labor market shrinking? Most said yes, thanks to the > evolution of the technology itself. As technology becomes easier to > user, more efficient, self-healing and ubiquitous, a lot of the heavy > lifting can be left to business units and users, or become outsourced. > One IT executive said it's too expensive to develop software in the > U.S. "Techno nerd" jobs will outright disappear, particularly ones in > programming and application development. But database, network and > systems administrators are safe. "They are the unsung heroes of IT," > another exec said. > > Most said IT departments are permanent, but shrinking. Forget about > the nuts and bolts. Ideally, said one IT vice president, "the emphasis > in technology will move away from managing projects to applying > information systems effectively." Others said to prepare for a heavy > emphasis on standards-setting, infrastructure-tending, process > re-engineering and strategizing. Understanding the business side of > the equation will become absolutely critical, especially as business > units take over some IT functions and development efforts. > Adaptability and a lifelong commitment to learning will become > essential. > > What about the impact of a more computer-savvy workforce? Most of > those who replied carefully distinguished between what one reader > called experienced users of technology and experienced technologists. > "They are magnificent users of what others have already created, sort > of the race car drivers of the techno world," said one veteran IT pro. > To be sure, the younger generations will enter the workforce with > higher expectations for performance and service, which in turn will be > provided by new waves of IT workers. "As technology becomes easier to > use, IT becomes more complex to manage," said one college dean of > computing. > > Although the future of IT seems safe, don't get too comfortable. "The > genie is out of the bottle," warns one of your peers. "Stop believing > and behaving [like] you are the only resource who can do IT-related > tasks!" Another algorithm for success is to "keep reinventing > yourself" because traditional IT is about to go by the boards. > > As our kids become more technically astute and the technology gets > better, it will put pressure on traditional IT workers to stay ahead > of the needs of end users in order to stay employed. But staying ahead > is what you've always done. > > Patricia Keefe is editorial director at Computerworld. You can contact > her at patricia_keefe@computerworld.com. > > From: *********** > Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 > Subject: Re: Peoria Journal Star article - Letters to Editor > > Dr. Matloff: > > Yes, you can post the following article in your newsletter: > > The public and the media must realize and come to terms with the > negative effects engineers' and programmers' job insecurities are > having on our teenagers and youngsters. The upcoming American > generation is crucial to the United States' technological survival. > > My two sons are aged fifteen and ten. My high school son is a Science > Honors student while my ten year old has been accepted in accelerated > math. Due to my previous layoffs along with those of fellow engineers > and programmers, my wife is discouraging our sons from majoring in > engineering and\or computer science. > > I'm certain that this same scenario is being played out in thousands > of American homes. Why should our children "rack their brains out" in > Science, Math and Engineering in good American colleges for four years > only to face stagnant wages and layoffs upon graduation? > > The H-1B and other engineering wage busting issues are symptomatic of > something much more sinister and dangerous for America in the long > term and this is government's, academia's and corporation's abandoning > and forsaking their homegrown technological base. Concurrent with > this ominous trend is the draining of our technical prowess to third > world and potentially dangerous nations. > > I'm certain that Iraq's Sadam Hussein and Al Qaeda's Osama Bin Laden > would love to have access to our communications' cryptographic > secrets. > > If these trends continue, America will become a second-rate > technological nation in ten-to-twenty years. This is the fate that > awaits a nation that takes its engineering and scientific talent for > granted. > > My formative youthful years were in the sixties right after the launch > of Soviet Sputnik. In those days American culture promoted and > nurtured its scientific and engineering career paths for its youth. > Companies held on to their engineers and scientists. > > I know quite a few retirees in their seventies and eighties who > retired after 30-to-40 years with one company. It's important to note > that their salaries were not that high at their retirement. > > These retired engineers and scientists were not greedy individuals. > All they wanted was a livable wage, good benefits, innovative work > environment and job security. Corporations and government being only > too happy to give them these small benefits realized the even bigger > return they received with long term in-house technical know-how that > these individuals provided. > > Forty years ago companies valued their human technical resources. > Companies had long range visions. For example, RCA's David Sarnoff as > ruthless as he may have been (I believe that he stole Philo > Farnsworth's TV ideas) never believed in laying off his treasured > engineers and scientists. (This was relayed to me by a retired former > RCA engineer. > > Sarnoff was bent upon making RCA a world-class electronics power, and > he had a long term view of where he wanted his company to be in a > ten-to-twenty year time period and beyond. Consequently, RCA > programmers, engineers and scientist had long term job security. > > Unfortunately, Sarnoff died years before RCA's 1986 takeover by GE and > "Neutron Jack" Welch, and those once valued RCA engineers and > scientists found themselves on the street jobless. GE's long term > view of the future ended with the next quarter's earnings and profits. > > When GE laid off 800 engineers and scientists at its Astrospace > Division in East Windsor, NJ, (formerly RCA Astroelectronics) and > Valley Forge, PA, locations in 1991-1992, men and women with > doctorates and patents in high technology space, communications and > electronics specialties were included. To me, this proved that GE had > no vision of the future other than to placate the corporate board > room's lust and greed for quarterly profit. > > Incidentally, this layoff resulted in the loss of GE's one billion > dollar Mars Observer probe as well as the multimillion dollar failures > of GE's Landsat and Telstar satellites in 1993 and 1994. > > Unfortunately, neither corporate nor public (i.e., government and > media) America has learned its lessons from these past fiascoes and > mistakes. > > ************** > > ----- End forwarded message ----- Excellent post! I spoke with the head of Human Resources at a Fortune 500 technology company in the Boulder-Broomfield technology corridor today and she said that in Boulder County the technology companies have imploded. Her recommendation to laid-off technology workers was to look for a new career in a non-technology industry.
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