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Article #479Re: How to waterboard
From: bearclaw
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:42
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:42
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In article <190920061243093917%jmerk06@Invalid.earthlink.net>, "John�]� ���������������������������������������������������������������" <jmerk06@Invalid.earthlink.net> wrote: > So if you have a serial killer in your neighborhood, you tell the > police to leave him alone because if you make him mad he might kill > again? Lovely. Your argument is, "because local police lawfully engage to apprehend a serial killer, our nation should unlawfully allow the President of the United States free reign to unlawfully torture detainees without evidence, trial or representation, just because they are suspected of being "unlawful combatants", a term we deliberately made up to avoid calling them prisoners of war so that we didn't have to afford them any opportunity to prove their innocence." You cannot justify dysnomia (literally, "lawlessness") by pointing out the lawful procedures of criminal justice. Bush's plan flies in the face of both domestic and international law and utterly defies any concept of justice. Unfortunately for those who love torture, the Supreme Court agrees with this truth. To quote from a Washington Post editorial: "It is not possible for our elected representatives to hold any sort of honorable "debate" over torture. Bush says he is waging a "struggle for civilization," but civilized nations do not debate slavery or genocide, and they don't debate torture, either. This spectacle insults and dishonors every American."
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