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In news:bearclaw-5B0FAE.11323123092006@news.supernews.com,
bearclaw@cruller.invalid <bearclaw@cruller.invalid>spewed forth:
> ... maybe they should get out of the kitchen:
>
> Walmart threatens studios over movie/video sales on iTunes:
>
> <http://www.nypost.com/business/retail_iation_business_tim_arango.htm>

just one more reason NOT to shop at Walmart 

On 2006-09-23 12:10:18 -0500, "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> said:

> In news:bearclaw-5B0FAE.11323123092006@news.supernews.com,
> bearclaw@cruller.invalid <bearclaw@cruller.invalid>spewed forth:
>> ... maybe they should get out of the kitchen:
>> 
>> Walmart threatens studios over movie/video sales on iTunes:
>> 
>> <http://www.nypost.com/business/retail_iation_business_tim_arango.htm>
> 
> just one more reason NOT to shop at Walmart

As if another reason were needed.

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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:30 -0500, Vic Smith
<thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 06:09:38 GMT, Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:37:08 -0700, Abe <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Walmart threatens studios over movie/video sales on iTunes:
>>>>>>> <http://www.nypost.com/business/retail_iation_business_tim_arango.htm>
>>>>>>just one more reason NOT to shop at Walmart 
>>>>>Agreed. That's disgusting behavior.
>>>>WalMart anticipates that they will sell fewer DVD's in the future, so
>>>>they are ordering less product.  What's disgusting about that?
>>>I couldn't care less that they anticipate selling fewer DVDs because
>>>of downloadable movie sales. That's not the point. You need to read
>>>between the lines a bit. The point is that are retaliating by sending
>>>back DVDs, and cutting future orders for DVDs way in excess of
>>>expected DVD sales shrinkage due to legal movie downloading.
>>>
>>>It's a strongarm tactic. In essence WM is saying, if you sell movies
>>>online, we'll cut your balls off at the retail level. Who the hell is
>>>WM to tell the studios how they can sell their product?
>>
>>
>>Why do you feel that it is morally superior for the studios to force
>>WalMart to order more DVDs than they expect to sell?
>>
>>WalMart isn't telling the studios how they can sell their product -
>>but they ARE telling the studios that they won't be selling as many
>>DVDs through WalMart.
>>
>Do you consider what you just said "spinning"?
>Or just plain old bullshit?
>
>--Vic


Have you stopped beating your wife?

In <sjoeh2pqh725khhdnhku4vshd21aqfp6of@4ax.com>, Bob Ward brought to my 
attention the following that I edited to include what I want to add to:

>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:30 -0500, Vic Smith
><thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 06:09:38 GMT, Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:37:08 -0700, Abe <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Why do you feel that it is morally superior for the studios to force
>>>WalMart to order more DVDs than they expect to sell?
>>>
>>>WalMart isn't telling the studios how they can sell their product -
>>>but they ARE telling the studios that they won't be selling as many
>>>DVDs through WalMart.
>>>
>>Do you consider what you just said "spinning"?
>>Or just plain old bullshit?
>>
>>--Vic
>
>Have you stopped beating your wife?

  I say more power to anyone that successfully profits by being a supplier 
to Wal-Mart!  A bit of research tells me that WM pushes, squeezes and 
abuses their suppliers at least as badly as the horror stories that I 
heard about Sears!  It surely appears to me that WM does not abuse merely
their employees!

  I would suggest seeing how Snapper succeeds in selling lawnmowers and 
even manufacturing them in the USA by not selling through "Wally World", 
and how the Vlassic pickle company bellied-up apparently-to-me as a result 
of becoming a WM supplier!

 - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:26:14 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
Klipstein) wrote:

>In <sjoeh2pqh725khhdnhku4vshd21aqfp6of@4ax.com>, Bob Ward brought to my 
>attention the following that I edited to include what I want to add to:
>
>>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:30 -0500, Vic Smith
>><thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 06:09:38 GMT, Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:37:08 -0700, Abe <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Why do you feel that it is morally superior for the studios to force
>>>>WalMart to order more DVDs than they expect to sell?
>>>>
>>>>WalMart isn't telling the studios how they can sell their product -
>>>>but they ARE telling the studios that they won't be selling as many
>>>>DVDs through WalMart.
>>>>
>>>Do you consider what you just said "spinning"?
>>>Or just plain old bullshit?
>>>
>>>--Vic
>>
>>Have you stopped beating your wife?
>
>  I say more power to anyone that successfully profits by being a supplier 
>to Wal-Mart!  A bit of research tells me that WM pushes, squeezes and 
>abuses their suppliers at least as badly as the horror stories that I 
>heard about Sears!  It surely appears to me that WM does not abuse merely
>their employees!
>
>  I would suggest seeing how Snapper succeeds in selling lawnmowers and 
>even manufacturing them in the USA by not selling through "Wally World", 
>and how the Vlassic pickle company bellied-up apparently-to-me as a result 
>of becoming a WM supplier!
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


Apparently you are willing and able to swallow anything presented by
anti-Walmart crusaders.  There are certainly thousands of Walmart
suppliers and employees who do NOT feel that they are being abused.

Bob Ward wrote:

>On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:26:14 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
>Klipstein) wrote:
>
>  
>
>>In <sjoeh2pqh725khhdnhku4vshd21aqfp6of@4ax.com>, Bob Ward brought to my 
>>attention the following that I edited to include what I want to add to:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:44:30 -0500, Vic Smith
>>><thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 06:09:38 GMT, Bob Ward <bobward@email.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 18:37:08 -0700, Abe <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Why do you feel that it is morally superior for the studios to force
>>>>>WalMart to order more DVDs than they expect to sell?
>>>>>
>>>>>WalMart isn't telling the studios how they can sell their product -
>>>>>but they ARE telling the studios that they won't be selling as many
>>>>>DVDs through WalMart.
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Do you consider what you just said "spinning"?
>>>>Or just plain old bullshit?
>>>>
>>>>--Vic
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Have you stopped beating your wife?
>>>      
>>>
>> I say more power to anyone that successfully profits by being a supplier 
>>to Wal-Mart!  A bit of research tells me that WM pushes, squeezes and 
>>abuses their suppliers at least as badly as the horror stories that I 
>>heard about Sears!  It surely appears to me that WM does not abuse merely
>>their employees!
>>
>> I would suggest seeing how Snapper succeeds in selling lawnmowers and 
>>even manufacturing them in the USA by not selling through "Wally World", 
>>and how the Vlassic pickle company bellied-up apparently-to-me as a result 
>>of becoming a WM supplier!
>>
>>- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>>    
>>
>
>
>Apparently you are willing and able to swallow anything presented by
>anti-Walmart crusaders.  There are certainly thousands of Walmart
>suppliers and employees who do NOT feel that they are being abused.
>  
>

like P&G ?

Abe wrote:
> >>>> Walmart threatens studios over movie/video sales on iTunes:
> >>>> <http://www.nypost.com/business/retail_iation_business_tim_arango.htm>
> >>>just one more reason NOT to shop at Walmart
> >>Agreed. That's disgusting behavior.
> >WalMart anticipates that they will sell fewer DVD's in the future, so
> >they are ordering less product.  What's disgusting about that?
> I couldn't care less that they anticipate selling fewer DVDs because
> of downloadable movie sales. That's not the point. You need to read
> between the lines a bit. The point is that are retaliating by sending
> back DVDs, and cutting future orders for DVDs way in excess of
> expected DVD sales shrinkage due to legal movie downloading.
>
> It's a strongarm tactic. In essence WM is saying, if you sell movies
> online, we'll cut your balls off at the retail level. Who the hell is
> WM to tell the studios how they can sell their product?

Who are the studios (or you, for that matter) to tell Wal-Mart how many
DVDs they should buy?

"Bob Ward" <bobward@email.com> wrote in message 
news:481fh29b53l2nu9ma7m91d0pjvpenffa2p@4ax.com...
> Apparently you are willing and able to swallow anything presented by
> anti-Walmart crusaders.  There are certainly thousands of Walmart
> suppliers and employees who do NOT feel that they are being abused.

Of course, it's hard to talk to them because they're all in China <g>. 

> > WalMart isn't telling the studios how they can sell their product -
> > but they ARE telling the studios that they won't be selling as many
> > DVDs through WalMart.
>
> Yes they are.
> " Wal-Mart has overtly threatened to retaliate if they go into business with
> Apple. "
>  "sent "cases and cases" of DVDs back to Disney, "
> " David Porter - the executive responsible for stocking the retailer's
> shelves with DVDs and CDs and whose influence is so immense in Tinseltown
> that he's been named to Premiere magazine's annual power list - made the
> rounds of Hollywood studios. His message, according to a studio exec
> involved in the discussions: that there would be "serious ramifications" if
> the studios hopped in bed with Apple."
> 
> What would you call it?

Good business practice.

Bob Ward wrote:

>>>>--Vic
>>>
>>>Have you stopped beating your wife?
>>
>> I say more power to anyone that successfully profits by being a supplier 
>>to Wal-Mart!  A bit of research tells me that WM pushes, squeezes and 
>>abuses their suppliers at least as badly as the horror stories that I 
>>heard about Sears!  It surely appears to me that WM does not abuse merely
>>their employees!
>>
>> I would suggest seeing how Snapper succeeds in selling lawnmowers and 
>>even manufacturing them in the USA by not selling through "Wally World", 
>>and how the Vlassic pickle company bellied-up apparently-to-me as a result 
>>of becoming a WM supplier!
>>
>>- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
> 
> 
> 
> Apparently you are willing and able to swallow anything presented by
> anti-Walmart crusaders.  There are certainly thousands of Walmart
> suppliers and employees who do NOT feel that they are being abused.

Or they won't talk about it because Walmart is their biggest customer.