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Response.  I have read your post and remain unrepentent.  If you are a
nondegreed PE and you claim to be better trained than a 2.0 engineer are
you saying that no one should go to college to learn engineering, that you
are better off learning engineering on your own? 

First: And I have worked with many non degreed PE's who scare me to death
because they lack fundamental training in physics, mathematics, strength of
materials, statistics, etc. that even a 2.0 new engineer has.  Imho a 2.0
degree is better than no degree.   Further although someone may pass the PE
without a degree I believe they are ignorant (simply because they lack the
prerequsite knowledge and scientific training) and are unqualified to be
called an engineer. 

Second:  I did not say that I would rather depend on a new 2.0 grad than a
nondegreed PE. Imho neither are qualified.  However the 2.0 grad can be
taught to be a responsible engineer since he has at lease learned the
fundamentals, the non-degreed PE can not be taught (without sending him
back to college to get a degree) since he does not have the basic skills. 
To draw an analogy; one cannot read until one knows the alphabet, just as
one can not be an engineer until one knows mathematics/physics.

Brian

Greg Yotz <hoppy6@cadvantage.com> wrote in article
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> I have worked with several degreed 'engineers' that would scare me to
> death to have anything to do anything with safety issues.  Just because
> you 'earned' a degree from 'some' school doesn't mean your responsible
> in any way shape or form.  And your saying that you would rather depend
> on a new 2.0 gpa 'degreed' engineer than someone who has passed a PE and
> has several years of proven ability but doesn't have a degree.
> 
> acs wrote:
> 
> > > > P.S.  It is possible for a person to pass the PE test based solely
> > on
> > work experience, ie there is no requirement for a university degree.
> > To me
> > this it is a very scary thought someone without a college education
> > could
> > be responsible for protecting the safety of the public, my family, and
> > even
> > myself based on their abilty to pass a test.
> > >
> 
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