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Article #337Re: pool motor starter cap
From: daestrom
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:43
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:43
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"Lord-Data" <data@ihug.com.au> wrote in message news:41d23c76$0$3610$61c65585@un-2park-reader-02.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au... > > "Chas" <umlaut@xxx.com.au> wrote in message > news:41cfd840$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> >> "sticks" <ksbutler@iinet.net.au> wrote in message >> news:41ce65cf$0$14450$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >>> Hi all , >>> >>> My pool pump has been playing up for a day or two , runs for an >>> hour or so then shuts down , (overheating) >>> I have taken motor out and the starter capacitor is ruptured i think it >>> is >>> 60uF 450VAC cant read much else , motor is a 4.3Amp Model LTP750 made >>> bY >>> ONGA pumps . >>> My questions are >>> >>> 1. Should i just change starter capacitor and refit >>> 2. What could cause overheat problem ( bearings aside) >>> 3. Do i need exact replacement capacitor >>> >>> thanks >>> >> Don't know the particular motor, but it seems possible that the failed >> capacitor is a "run" capacitor which should be constantly in circuit >> with >> the second "run" winding to provide phase shift to that winding. The >> motor >> would be in essence a pseudo two phase motor. Failure of the capacitor >> would explain the overheating. The voltage rating of 450v also indicates >> a >> "run" cap, but 60 uf seems a bit high.?? >> >> Failure of a "start" cap would mean the motor would not start, just hum & >> heat up. I would expect a "start" cap to have a value of 150-200uf & >> 250v. > > Hrm .. sorry to hi-jack the thread a bit, but just curious .. If the > starter cap is gone, would it cause it to start only sometimes? > perhaps failing/damaged but still able to work? Sometimes it starts fine, > sometimes it does exactly what you said above .. humms for a while, then > clicks off from overheating .. then re-tries a few mins later .. If you > give it a flick by hand it will always start going .. and sometimes it > starts fine, othertimes it jams like this .. > That sounds more like a start-cap with a defective centrifugal switch. When the motor shuts off, if the switch doesn't re-close, the next start will fail and just 'hummmm'. Manually spinning it will start up the motor. Then when it shuts off next time, if the switch *does* re-close, it will start normally. Some motors have a sleeve that slides along the shaft to close/open the switch. If that sleeve gets gummed up and doesn't move easily, you get the symptoms you describe. daestrom
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