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Article #350Re: Electric Energy Economizer !!
From: Isaac
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:53
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:53
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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:23:49 GMT, Peter Dettmann <peter@aardvark.net.au> wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 03:32:59 GMT, Isaac ><isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> wrote: > >>On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:15:09 -0500, Keith R Williams <krw@attglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>> They eat the cost of generating VAH but charge (residential) customers >>> for WH. Where is the difference going? >> >>This statement is complete nonsense. Power companies eat the cost of >>generating watt-hours. But some of those watt-hours are dissipated >>during transmission while others are consumed on the load side of >>consumer power meters and are thus metered. >> >>The energy consumed by the utility company is NOT proportional >>to the VAH generated so saying that the utility company is paying for >>VAH is just false. You could see that yourself by doing a some sample >>calculations. >> >>Isaac > > Isaac you first need to do your own calculations. The utility has to > generate and supply, and have amp capacity in excess of what they need > to just supply the amps necessary to produce the real power. Not I didn't say that there was no extra energy required, I said that the energy required was not proportional to VAH. Isaac
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