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Brian wrote:

> EricJNK wrote:
>
> >  Yes, I sure can't understand how a salesman becomes "sales
> engineer".
> >
> > Why do we, real engineer, allow our title, "engineer",  to become so
>
> > cheap and degenerated to a BS joke? I guess that explain why the
> > typical engineers are said to be a bunch of entroverts and nerds.
>
> Look, if you do not have PE after your title, you are not a "real"
> engineer.  A BS alone in an engineering field does not qualify you to
> be
> an engineer.

   In most cases, all the PE proves is that you can pass a test, NOTHING
more. I trained with many that I considered to be my superiors in
talent, however they did not pass the preliminary exams, and I did. Does
that make them any less of an engineer? not in the least! Some of the
best engineers I have worked with have not had their PE, and a good
number have not had the BS! But if I wanted something designed
correctly, I knew they were up to the task. If you go only by title and
certification, then you are going to get burned. In the US, the only
real need for the PE is if you are going to be a consultant. Then it is
mainly for the lawyers, not a guarantee that the person is top-notch
engineer.

Outside of the US I cannot comment. I suspect that other countries take
the PE designation a bit more serious than here. Also, if the licensing
system is corrupt, as it was in Chicago in the 50's and 60's, it still
becomes a moot point. Judge the engineer by the projects he has done,
not by the paper on the wall.