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Re: who is the real "engineer"? ( was Re: who can be called "Dr."/"physician")

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From: Greg Shetler
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:00
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Tom Burke wrote:
> 
> I just read this....  As a graduate from an engineering program, you
> may
> _not_ legally call yourself an engineer until you have passed the PE,
> &
> have received your PE license...  At least in Illinois..
> 
"Legally?"  I'm sorry, I really don't understand this reference.  Under
what code would you be punished if you called yourself an engineer
without the PE license?

I know I can call myself a "doctor", without a PhD or MD or DDS, or any
other doctorate degree.  Legally.  I just can't represent myself in
business as an MD, or PhD, or JD unless I have that degree.  I can
represent myself as a "spin-doctor", or "LAN-doctor", or just plain
"doctor", in business, as long as I don't claim credentials I don't
have.  How else does the "rug-doctor" steam cleaner system stay in
business?

I think that what you are referring to is the fact that Illinois law can
prosecute for fraud if somebody claims credentials as a Professional
Engineer without the license.

Otherwise, there are a lot of firms out there in Illinois who are hiring
criminals, who answer ads for all sorts of "engineers", but who don't
have the PE license.

I'm sorry, but I think this whole discussion is silly.

Anybody who feels demeaned because trash haulers are called sanitation
engineers is putting more faith in their title than in their ability to
do the job.  That's not an engineer in my book, while they trash hauler
who gets the job done, is.

Greg Shetler
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From: Greg Shetler <shetler@ti.com>
Subject: Re: who is the real "engineer"? ( was Re: who can be called "Dr."/"physician")
Date: 1997/08/19
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