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I attempted to show that you can build a solar powered, off grid house (or
solar assisted on-grid house) but that consumption can't be 3000kwh/month,
or even 900kwh/month, unless you have lots of money. a 50kwh/month system is
reasonable, but can YOU live on so little. some can.

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"Greig Ebeling" <greige@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:53:45 +1000, "ant" <dont-look@evil.spam> wrote:
>
> >my real point was that the electricity utility could do the things i was
> >talking about, home roof top installed and utility owned solar panels are
> >already happening in America. also if you look at the amount of solar
> >energy falling on your average roof and the efficiency of the current
> >generation of solar cells i think the figure is about %50 coverage in
> >America and %30 in Australia and the homes energy needs are met.
> >
> >redox batteries and fuel cells are already in use, redox batteries have
> >potential to allow people to purchase all of their power at off peak
rates
> >and then use that energy as required, the batteries are efficient enough
> >and recycle their electrolyte, no need to understand how it works, as
most
> >people dont understand how a microwave oven or dishwasher works i cant
see
> >lack of skill being an issue, if it breaks you just call one of the
> >manufactures recommended service suppliers.
> >
> >the public is willing to pay more for true clean power. now that the
> >mechanisms are in place to allow consumers to chose where their power is
> >soured from, i doubt that this style of energy selling will become
popular
> >in America as people will be able to chose not to take power from the
> >nuclear generating facilities. already demand for clean power is far
> >outstripping supply, they cant build the wind farms fast enough. plans
are
> >already underway to implement the scheme i outlined earlier, as it is a
way
> >of increasing generating capacity without purchasing more land.
> >
> >
> >
> >ant
>
> Ant is living in a dream world.  He invents solar power systems in his
> imagination, then demands that it is all real, and that the utilities
> are planning to install the systems any day now.  Ant's fevered
> delusions are kicked along by Australia's Sustainable Energy
> Development Authority, which is conning people into believing that by
> spending a few dollars extra each quarter, that they are buying green
> power.  In reality, the extra money goes to buy a trickle of power
> from expensive experimental systems, required to meet our Kyoto
> commitments.  I read in the paper a few days ago, that the system is
> failing to provide even a fraction of the energy required to meet our
> commitments.
>
> Of course it is technically possible to build a solar-powered house,
> independent of the grid.  The problem is that it is too expensive.
> Ant could do it now, but he won't because he can't afford it.  His
> dream involves nameless, faceless engineers in overalls, installing
> his clean power system free-of-charge.  No doubt each day the men in
> overalls fail to appear, he blames people like me, because of my lack
> of faith in his solar dreamworld.
>
> Keep posting, ant.  What you say often enough and loud enough, people
> will come to believe.
>
>
> ...Greig