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Article #1135Re: Champagne bottles won't go flat with spoons?
From: Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 17:09
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 17:09
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In article <1993Jan4.225818.8575@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>, mos@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Michael O'Sullivan) writes...
>rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns) writes:
>I missed the past discussion. I have tried the spoon trick with a bottle
>of beer, and it did work. The beer was not flat 24 hours after the spoon
>was put in. I don't think it would last for days, but the spoon definitely
>prolonged the beers carbonated life (so to speak). I too want to know,
>how does it work?
The October 1991 issue of Physics Today contained an article titled
"Throught a Beer Glass Darkly" which described in detail the formation
of beer bubbles and the subsequent physics of same.
In terse mode, "bubbles begin as invisible clusters or microbubbles
of CO2 molecuees that grow on rough spots, called "Nucleation sites..."
(very similar to the formation of raindrops around dust particles.)
This explains why some people pour a little salt or sugar into their
beer to create more foam.
Also it is noted, "CO2 molecules collect at the nucleation site until
the resulting bubble reaches a critical size and is able to break
away..."
The hypothesis is very simple. The spoon must interfere with the
nucleation process. Hypothesis expansion follows:
A/ Spoon collects bubbles (we've all seen this,) and slows down the
rate of bubble formation by trapping the bubbles due to increased
surface tension.
B/ Spoon collects bubbles, and resultant supply of microscopic dust
particles which are sources of nucleation. (Normally after bubble
bursts, dust particle drops down, becomes source of another bubble,
but particle adheres to spoon, no longer is active nucleation site.)
Ok folks, now what?
Frank R. Borger - Physicist __ Internet: Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
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