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Article #1287Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!
From: P.G.Hamer
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:00
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>>! to several hours (children drowned in icy lakes) and subsequently >>! revived, then this would negate your assertion regarding "continuous >>! interaction," would it not, Peter? The effects of ischemia are >>! minimized due to the low temp. >> >>I never heard of such a thing except in this thread. When and where >>did this happen? > >Oh, it happens all the time. Not for hours though, just several times >longer >than they would normally be expected to survive without serious brain damage. >ie 20 minutes instead of 4 or 5. If cryon has a cite for a survival of several >hours, that would be very interesting indeed. I have always seen the effect ascribed to a combination of the low temperature and the "dive effect". A set of physiological changes in blood-flow and metabolism wich occur when you put your head underwater; which collectively aid survival without breathing.[The effect is much more pronounced in aquatic mammals such as seals.] This would seem reduce its relevance to cryon. Peter
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