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Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!

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From: Hugh Gibbons
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <34BF2D65.4764@nortel.co.uk>, "P.G.Hamer"
<P.G.Hamer@nortel.co.uk> wrote:

! >>! to several hours (children drowned in icy lakes) and subsequently
! >>! revived, then this would negate your assertion regarding "continuous
! >>! interaction," would it not, Peter? The effects of ischemia are
! >>! minimized due to the low temp.
! >>
! >>I never heard of such a thing except in this thread.  When and where 
! >>did this happen?
! >
! >Oh, it happens all the time. Not for hours though, just several times
>longer 
! >than they would normally be expected to survive without serious brain
damage. 
! >ie 20 minutes instead of 4 or 5. If cryon has a cite for a survival of
several 
! >hours, that would be very interesting indeed. 
! 
! I have always seen the effect ascribed to a combination of the low 
! temperature and the "dive effect". A set of physiological changes in
! blood-flow and metabolism wich occur when you put your head underwater;
! which collectively aid survival without breathing.[The effect is much
! more pronounced in aquatic mammals such as seals.]  This would seem
! reduce its relevance to cryon.

Not necessarily.  It may mean that under the right conditions, humans could
be kept at near-freezing temperatures for a long time (compared to a few
minutes) without killing them.  Maybe they could be chilled while awaiting
available organs for transplant, perhaps for days.  This might be  a real
prospect in the near term.

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From: hgibbons@guess.where.com (Hugh Gibbons)
Subject: Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!
Date: 1998/01/16
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