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Article #1288Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!
From: Hugh Gibbons
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:00
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <34BF2D65.4764@nortel.co.uk>, "P.G.Hamer" <P.G.Hamer@nortel.co.uk> wrote: ! >>! to several hours (children drowned in icy lakes) and subsequently ! >>! revived, then this would negate your assertion regarding "continuous ! >>! interaction," would it not, Peter? The effects of ischemia are ! >>! minimized due to the low temp. ! >> ! >>I never heard of such a thing except in this thread. When and where ! >>did this happen? ! > ! >Oh, it happens all the time. Not for hours though, just several times >longer ! >than they would normally be expected to survive without serious brain damage. ! >ie 20 minutes instead of 4 or 5. If cryon has a cite for a survival of several ! >hours, that would be very interesting indeed. ! ! I have always seen the effect ascribed to a combination of the low ! temperature and the "dive effect". A set of physiological changes in ! blood-flow and metabolism wich occur when you put your head underwater; ! which collectively aid survival without breathing.[The effect is much ! more pronounced in aquatic mammals such as seals.] This would seem ! reduce its relevance to cryon. Not necessarily. It may mean that under the right conditions, humans could be kept at near-freezing temperatures for a long time (compared to a few minutes) without killing them. Maybe they could be chilled while awaiting available organs for transplant, perhaps for days. This might be a real prospect in the near term. -- Now you can achieve Total World Domination at a low cost, from the convenience of your own home!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 102cdf,4372e49b3ee95584 X-Google-Attributes: gid102cdf,public X-Google-Thread: f6c4e,b35d00b528711b2b X-Google-Attributes: gidf6c4e,public X-Google-Thread: f803e,3a9ffa5455ae60c4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf803e,public From: hgibbons@guess.where.com (Hugh Gibbons) Subject: Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage! Date: 1998/01/16 Message-ID: <hgibbons-ya02408000R1601982326380001@news.idt.net> X-Deja-AN: 316753271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: <01bd1288$2398a360$50f2d9cf@davidwat> <19971228224301.RAA04484@ladder02.news.aol.com> <34a98d53.1611578@news.mindspring.com> <68rsnd$3qa@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <EMDGLp.4Ms@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <hgibbons-ya02408000R0601982223010001@news.idt.net> <jstrout-ya02408000R0801981133560001@news.ucsd.edu> <B0DAF2A29668420F8@cara.demon.co.uk> <EMIt1w.CnC@world.std.com> <EMJ570.LwI@world.std.com> <B0DD019996686F712@cara.demon.co.uk> <698ate$1q4@panix.com> <B0DE9F48966871BE@cara.demon.co.uk> <34b8dc3d.701477672@news.mindspring.com> <hgibbons-ya02408000R1201982248380001@news.idt.net> <69mcv1$rqs$1@falcon.pacit.tas.gov.au> <34BF2D65.4764@nortel.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Organization: unknown Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,sci.cryonics,bionet.info-theory