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Article #1289Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage!
From: Randy Smith
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:00
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On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:48:38 -0700, hgibbons@guess.where.com (Hugh Gibbons) wrote: > >! As an analogy, if I code some very complicated message via a coding >! scheme which *you* cannot decipher, then that information, that >! message is *destroyed* so far as you are concerned, right now as of >! this moment. If however, science should advance in the science of >! cryptology and then *be able* to decode my coded message, then that >! information which you once thought lost is now "readable" to you. > >That's a false analogy. The message is not encoded with a hard-to-break >cipher, it's erased by RANDOM damage, in other words, noise. Once the >SNR goes negative, sorry, the message can't be recovered. A cipher >retains all information and does not introduce noise. Suppose I take a message and erase every 10th letter? I'm introducing noise, right? Is there still information there which can be recovered? How about every other letter? All but one letter? Where is the threshold beyond which the *message* has no meaning? Also, today's noise is tomorrow's information. Science and technology march on, while cryonicists wait.... Randy Smith Cryonics: Gateway to the Future? http://members.wbs.net/homepages/c/r/y/cryofan1.html ****************************************************
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 102cdf,4372e49b3ee95584 X-Google-Attributes: gid102cdf,public X-Google-Thread: f803e,3a9ffa5455ae60c4 X-Google-Attributes: gidf803e,public X-Google-Thread: fb57f,3a9ffa5455ae60c4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb57f,public X-Google-Thread: f6c4e,b35d00b528711b2b X-Google-Attributes: gidf6c4e,public From: cryon@mindspring.com (Randy Smith) Subject: Re: 7th grader needs opinions on the ethics of human cryogenic storage! Date: 1998/01/18 Message-ID: <34c384ad.127222497@news.mindspring.com> X-Deja-AN: 317010371 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <68rsnd$3qa@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <EMDGLp.4Ms@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <hgibbons-ya02408000R0601982223010001@news.idt.net> <jstrout-ya02408000R0801981133560001@news.ucsd.edu> <B0DAF2A29668420F8@cara.demon.co.uk> <EMIt1w.CnC@world.std.com> <EMJ570.LwI@world.std.com> <B0DD019996686F712@cara.demon.co.uk> <698ate$1q4@panix.com> <B0DE9F48966871BE@cara.demon.co.uk> <34b8dc3d.701477672@news.mindspring.com> <hgibbons-ya02408000R1201982248380001@news.idt.net> X-Server-Date: 18 Jan 1998 06:28:32 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.folklore.science,sci.cryonics,bionet.info-theory,sci.crypt