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In article <DLB.93Jan26102730@fanny.wash.inmet.com>, dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton) writes:
> I missed the original article in this thread.  I must therefore
> respond to a partial quote.
> 
>    In article <1k0gfkINNfbs@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>,
>    raab@vlsi.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Andreas Raab) writes: 
>    |> Is it possible to induce a hypnotic state in a person such that the
>    |> person doesn't realize what happens?
> 
>    [ stuff deleted ]
> 
>    |> Well, can it be that A hypnotized B? I know that eye contact over
>    |> extended periods of time can induce trace, but what then? There
>    |> was a lot of body language involved, and A used his voice very
>    |> much. It reminded me at the wizard Saruman a character from "The
>    |> Lord of the Rings" who bewitched people with his voice.
>    |> m really interested in the subject, it's fasconating to watch
>    |> people interact. This "hidden hypnosis" technique seems to be
>    |> used very frequent, especially in advertising, in particular in
>    |> TV. 
>    |> 	Andreas
> 
> Covert hypnotic inductions are certainly possible.  Erickson has
> published many examples, as have many others.  Erickson even
> recommends it in the case where a given client is clearly ambivalent,
> and the ambivalence results in considerable resistance.
> 
> Not having seen the original article, I cannot comment on whether a
> trance was induced in this particular case.  Hypnosis is not an
> "either-or" thing; being hypnotized is not a binary variable.  The
> answer to your question is probably, "To an extent".
> 
> 					Dave Barton
> 					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com


It depends on how 'A' obtained the information from 'B':

1. 'A' may have used a method of indirect questioning, clever, but
   not hypnosis.
2. 'A' may have applied 'B' with acceptable suggestions causing 'B'
   to divulge the necessary info'. No trance induction, but is sometimes
   called 'waking hypnosis' - a la Bernheim and Coue.
3. 'A' could have induced trance in 'B' thus increasing suggestibility of 'B'.
   However, 'A' would still have to be careful in how he extracted the
   information from 'B'. The hypnosis part, ie trance induction, may
   include a few factors:-
   - Monotony/soothing/authoritarian tinge in voice of 'A'
   - 'A's use of confusing/contradictory/wearing statements almost
     bullying 'B' into trance. This is a classic method of hypnotic induction,
     not very pleasant or ethical though
   - Rapport/trust 'B' to 'A' (applies to 2. as well)
   - Eye contact/fascination/attention of 'B' to 'A' (applies to 2. as well)
   - 'A' envoking emotion in 'B' whilst applying the suggestions (applies to
     2. as well)

I don't think post hypnotic amnesia would apply here, no trance deepening
present.

.................... A scottish perspective.

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