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Re: Interesting Hypnosis Talk

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From: K. Richard Pixley
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:46
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In article <1jl0irINNdf2@mirror.digex.com> curt@access.digex.com (curt
williams) writes:

   1) How many readers of alt.hypnosis believe that a person can be
   compelled to do something against their will, or something they
   would not ordinarily be willing to do, because of post hypnotic
   suggestion?

This question doesn't fit in my world view.

a) "do something against their will".  If I will something strong
enough, it happens.  If it happens, or I do it, then I willed it.
This is my definition of will.  Can my will be changed?  Certainly.

b) "ordinarily be willing to do".  Life is extraordinary.  The
ordinary state of my body is probably something resembling a puddle of
saltwater.  It makes no sense to say that I would or would not do any
particular action "ordinarily".  I take some actions at some times.
What *could* happen or *might* happen is irrelevant in the face of
what *does* happen.  Hence, conditionals of the form "what would I do
if" are a schrodinger's cat situation.  Neither of us will really know
until I'm presented with that situation.

c) I don't believe that there is any such thing as a "post hypnotic
suggestion".  Certainly there are ways to change consious state.  I'm
changing yours as you read this message.  Some of those also change
attitudes.  In turn, some of those change attitudes about attitudes,
etc, etc.

If I might second guess you, perhaps a more interesting answer for you
is that I believe any attitudes or behaviours can be changed.
Hypnotic techniques (whose existence we could debate) are one vehicle
for creating these changes.

   2) How many readers of alt.hypnosis believe that a person under
   hypnosis or following a post hypnotic suggestion can fool a
   polygraph?

See above.
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