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Re: Out of Body, but In Control?

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From: Donald Teed
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 15:43
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gst@spdcc.com (Gary S. Trujillo) writes:

>Here is Carey's article and a followup from alt.hypnosis:

>From: treesh@bach.helios.nd.edu (carey treesh)
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:46:51 GMT
>Subject: Out of Body, but In Control?
>Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
>Message-ID: <1992Nov6.184651.4080@news.nd.edu>
>Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

>My dad told the hypnotist to send the person to his parent's home in Michigan.
>The hypnotist asked dad exactly where, the address, and city.  He then 'told'
>the man under his spell "You are now in the city of Niles, located in the
>state of Michigan, your on Main Street, the address is 555, tell us what
>you see."

>The man under the spell (Who had never been to Michigan) described the front
>yard, told the group of a orange brick house with a white roof, a front

This does not coorespond to what I have understood about hyponosis -
that it is a way of accessing the subconscious, to reveal what
was recorded by the brain but is too difficult to access by
normal recall.  I'm not sure whether this topic of 'out of body'
trips would be accepted by those who practice hypnosis professionally.
I also think the story is flawed.  Since when have out of
body trips been able to exactly locate a geographical location 
and street address better than NASA and the pizza chain of your choice?
Other persons who tell about their OOB experiences do not get
100% details correct, and seem to have no control or precognition
or sometimes even an understanding of their destination.  The
perception of what is being seen and the understanding of where
they are, are more often dreamlike and foggy, although obviously
insightful beyond 'normal' means.  Is there really a 'Main' street
in Niles?  Sort of a 'standard' name.  Is there a 555 address?  Have you
noticed that movies use phone numbers starting with 555 as a way
to ensure that it will not really be someone's number?  It can
also be a non-number in other usage, although not as guaranteed.
I really think we are looking at a tall tale.
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