Article View: alt.internet.p2p
Article #141Re: Bush's NeoCon Lies about 911
From: Publius Ovidius Naso
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:40
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:40
219 lines
10350 bytes
10350 bytes
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:07:56 GMT, "tronlab" <tronlab@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >Bush is a liar and a killer. infowars.com And your a inbred moron, but we don't hate you for it. > > >"Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message >news:Ybhec.12195$R37.687@read1.cgocable.net... >> >> "Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message news:... >> Ex-FBI worker challenges 9/11 `lie' >> Claims U.S. had warnings of airplane attacks >> >> White House adviser's statements `not accurate' >> >> >> TIM HARPER >> WASHINGTON BUREAU >> >> WASHINGTON-When Condoleezza Rice takes her seat before the independent >9/11 >> commission here Thursday her assignment will be nothing short of halting >the >> most serious assault yet on the credibility of U.S. President George W. >> Bush. >> >> Sitting in the hearing room as Rice testifies will be a 33-year-old former >> FBI translator who may yet hold the key to the question now engulfing this >> nation - did an indifferent Bush administration ignore specific warnings >> that Al Qaeda was about to launch horrific attacks in the United States on >> Sept. 11, 2001? >> >> While allegations brought by former counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarke >> have swung the tide against the Bush White House in recent weeks, Sibel >> Edmonds delivered her own broadside against her government in private, >> during more than three hours of testimony to investigators for the 9/11 >> panel on Feb. 11. >> >> > Edmonds, who was hired as a translator by the FBI nine days after the >> > attacks, told the investigative panel she has seen and handled >> intelligence >> > documents and cables that show Rice, the national security adviser, is >> wrong >> > when she says there was no advance warning of air attacks on U.S. soil. >> > >> > She saw intelligence documents that pointed to the use of aircraft >against >> > skyscrapers in major U.S. cities. >> > >> > "We had various information from various sources and investigations," >she >> > said in an interview yesterday. >> > >> > "In terms of specific cities? Yes. It was not only New York and >> Washington, >> > D.C. There were four or five cities specifically named. >> > >> > "There were specific activities known. Domestic institutions were being >> > targeted and airplanes were going to be used. That was known. Now, did >it >> > say Sept. 11, 8:30 in the morning? I am not aware of such information. >Did >> > it say it was going to crash the planes in the building? I am not privy >to >> > that information. >> > >> > "But there was specific information on the use of airplanes. There were >> > people issuing orders and information on people already in place in this >> > country months before Sept. 11." >> > >> > She said she is not passing on hearsay, but information on specific >> > documents, the names of witnesses, the names of FBI agents and other >> > information so investigators can rely "not on my word," but on the >> documents >> > themselves. Most of them were dated April and May, 2001, she said. She >has >> > previously provided such information to congressional investigators. >> > >> > Edmonds, a Turkish-born U.S. citizen, said she was "appalled" by Rice's >> > public statements, delivered in a number of television interviews, that >> > there was no information indicating planes would be used on domestic >> > targets. >> > >> > Had Rice indicated that she did not know, Edmonds may have given her the >> > benefit of the doubt. >> > >> > "Then I would say maybe the FBI did not take the information to her, >maybe >> > she didn't know," Edmonds said. >> > >> > "But she's is saying `we' did not know, including herself, her advisers >> and >> > the FBI. That statement is not accurate. I've never really been >diplomatic >> > in life. It's a lie and a lie is a lie." >> > >> > An Aug. 6, 2001, daily intelligence briefing prepared for Bush indicated >> Al >> > Qaeda might have been planning to hijack airplanes, a point the White >> House >> > has not disputed. >> > >> > Rice has maintained there was no specific information in the briefing >that >> > would indicate the planes could have been used for suicide missions >> against >> > U.S. targets, a point that critics have always questioned. >> > >> > On the CBS program 60 Minutes eight days ago, she said everything >pointed >> to >> > "an attack abroad." >> > >> > In an opinion piece for the Washington Post published last month, Rice >> > wrote: "Despite what some have suggested, we received no intelligence >that >> > terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as >> > missiles. >> > >> > "Some analysts speculated that terrorists might hijack planes to try and >> > free U.S.-held terrorists." >> > >> > Yesterday, two major U.S. newspapers ran front-page stories that gave >> > further credence to the testimony of Clarke. >> > >> > The New York Times published an exhaustive study of anti-terrorism >efforts >> > by the Bush White House during the summer of 2001, concluding that >> vigilance >> > may have peaked in early July that summer, followed by "a scattered and >> > inconsistent" effort in the weeks before Sept. 11. >> > >> > The Washington Post, in a series of interviews with former >administration >> > officials and congressional investigators, found broad support for >> Clarke's >> > claim that the White House reacted slowly to warnings of the attacks. >> > >> > The paper also reviewed declassified testimony given by Clarke in 2002 >in >> > front of congressional investigators and found no clear evidence of >> > contradictions in his later testimony. >> > >> > Also yesterday, the chair of the commission investigating the attacks >said >> > the White House would vet its final report "line-by-line," a review >Thomas >> > Kean said he was surprised to learn was required by law. >> > >> > Vice-chair Lee Hamilton, in a joint appearance on NBC's Meet the Press >> with >> > Kean, said the commission will abide by the law but will not allow the >> White >> > House to "distort" the report. >> > >> > Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, and Hamilton, a former >> > Democratic congressman from Indiana, are to submit their final report in >> > late July. >> > >> > "I've been surprised by some of the things we've found," Kean said. >> > >> > It is impossible to corroborate Edmonds' statements, but she knows there >> > have been attempts to discredit her. She knows whistle-blowers are often >> > dismissed "as kooks or nutcases" and she shares that opinion regarding >> some >> > others who make unsubstantiated claims or promulgate conspiracy >theories. >> > >> > She is also embroiled in a legal battle with U.S. Attorney-General John >> > Ashcroft over her dismissal from the FBI. But she says she cannot be >> written >> > off as a disgruntled ex-employee because she was making allegations >about >> > slipshod procedures within the FBI before she fired. >> > >> > Edmonds has filed a lawsuit against the department, saying she was fired >> > after she raised security concerns within the FBI. The justice >> department's >> > internal inspector-general is investigating her claim she was fired in >> > reprisal for her allegations about shoddy transcriptions, unqualified >> > translators and a potential security breach. >> > >> > "She is a spectacular woman," said Edmonds' New York lawyer Eric Seiff. >> > >> > "If I am being fooled here, then I am being fooled big time. She comes >> > across as wonderfully straight with me in all our dealings." >> > >> > Bush, after months of refusals, succumbed to public pressure and allowed >> > Rice's public testimony this week. >> > >> > -- >> > "We must create a <economic> crisis in order to ensure that there is no >> > alternative to a smaller government." - Bush - Imprimus Magazine 1995. >> > >> > "We seek to remove resources from the control of the state, thereby >> starving >> > it." - International Society for Individual Liberty - NeoCon >Libertarian. >> > >> > "Throughout his term, Bush has implied tax cuts would starve the >> government, >> > paying for themselves by causing budget deficits that, in turn, would >> place >> > heavy pressure on Congress to lower spending." - Jeff Lemieux - Senior >> > Economist - Progressive Policy Institute. >> > >> > "They have an agenda which is to starve the government of revenue. But >in >> > order to get it through, they keep on having to pretend that the tax >cuts >> > are affordable, and so they've been suppressing the likely cost of >> > everything, including the war on terror." - Paul Krugman - Economist. >> > >> >
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<glu08019tvq9tqgg6m3f1da7h9oqsujdnb@4ax.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!c03.atl99!news.usenetserver.com!fe03.usenetserver.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mailReferences:
<Ybhec.12195$R37.687@read1.cgocable.net> <0JDfc.473740$Po1.31011@twister.tampabay.rr.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1091ef,e71ec6a56ff251c5 X-Google-Attributes: gid1091ef,public X-Google-Thread: 10e498,e71ec6a56ff251c5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e498,public X-Google-Thread: fa489,e71ec6a56ff251c5 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa489,public X-Google-Thread: fbe16,e71ec6a56ff251c5 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbe16,public X-Google-Thread: 1026d8,e71ec6a56ff251c5 X-Google-Attributes: gid1026d8,public X-Google-Thread: 100673,e71ec6a56ff251c5 X-Google-Attributes: gid100673,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-16 17:40:24 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!c03.atl99!news.usenetserver.com!fe03.usenetserver.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Publius Ovidius Naso <haroldwatkinsnospam@alltel.net> Newsgroups: alt.internet.p2p,alt.military,alt.sci.criminology,alt.sewing,alt.true-crime,co.politics Subject: Re: Bush's NeoCon Lies about 911 Organization: Old Poets Message-ID: <glu08019tvq9tqgg6m3f1da7h9oqsujdnb@4ax.com> References: <Ybhec.12195$R37.687@read1.cgocable.net> <0JDfc.473740$Po1.31011@twister.tampabay.rr.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 220 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:40:23 EDT Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 19:40:35 -0500