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Re: Bush's NeoCon Lies about 911

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From: tronlab
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:07
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Bush is a liar and a killer. infowars.com


"Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Vendicar Decarian" <VD@Pyro.net> wrote in message news:...
> Ex-FBI worker challenges 9/11 `lie'
> Claims U.S. had warnings of airplane attacks
>
> White House adviser's statements `not accurate'
>
>
> TIM HARPER
> WASHINGTON BUREAU
>
> WASHINGTON-When Condoleezza Rice takes her seat before the independent
9/11
> commission here Thursday her assignment will be nothing short of halting
the
> most serious assault yet on the credibility of U.S. President George W.
> Bush.
>
> Sitting in the hearing room as Rice testifies will be a 33-year-old former
> FBI translator who may yet hold the key to the question now engulfing this
> nation - did an indifferent Bush administration ignore specific warnings
> that Al Qaeda was about to launch horrific attacks in the United States on
> Sept. 11, 2001?
>
> While allegations brought by former counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarke
> have swung the tide against the Bush White House in recent weeks, Sibel
> Edmonds delivered her own broadside against her government in private,
> during more than three hours of testimony to investigators for the 9/11
> panel on Feb. 11.
>
> > Edmonds, who was hired as a translator by the FBI nine days after the
> > attacks, told the investigative panel she has seen and handled
> intelligence
> > documents and cables that show Rice, the national security adviser, is
> wrong
> > when she says there was no advance warning of air attacks on U.S. soil.
> >
> > She saw intelligence documents that pointed to the use of aircraft
against
> > skyscrapers in major U.S. cities.
> >
> > "We had various information from various sources and investigations,"
she
> > said in an interview yesterday.
> >
> > "In terms of specific cities? Yes. It was not only New York and
> Washington,
> > D.C. There were four or five cities specifically named.
> >
> > "There were specific activities known. Domestic institutions were being
> > targeted and airplanes were going to be used. That was known. Now, did
it
> > say Sept. 11, 8:30 in the morning? I am not aware of such information.
Did
> > it say it was going to crash the planes in the building? I am not privy
to
> > that information.
> >
> > "But there was specific information on the use of airplanes. There were
> > people issuing orders and information on people already in place in this
> > country months before Sept. 11."
> >
> > She said she is not passing on hearsay, but information on specific
> > documents, the names of witnesses, the names of FBI agents and other
> > information so investigators can rely "not on my word," but on the
> documents
> > themselves. Most of them were dated April and May, 2001, she said. She
has
> > previously provided such information to congressional investigators.
> >
> > Edmonds, a Turkish-born U.S. citizen, said she was "appalled" by Rice's
> > public statements, delivered in a number of television interviews, that
> > there was no information indicating planes would be used on domestic
> > targets.
> >
> > Had Rice indicated that she did not know, Edmonds may have given her the
> > benefit of the doubt.
> >
> > "Then I would say maybe the FBI did not take the information to her,
maybe
> > she didn't know," Edmonds said.
> >
> > "But she's is saying `we' did not know, including herself, her advisers
> and
> > the FBI. That statement is not accurate. I've never really been
diplomatic
> > in life. It's a lie and a lie is a lie."
> >
> > An Aug. 6, 2001, daily intelligence briefing prepared for Bush indicated
> Al
> > Qaeda might have been planning to hijack airplanes, a point the White
> House
> > has not disputed.
> >
> > Rice has maintained there was no specific information in the briefing
that
> > would indicate the planes could have been used for suicide missions
> against
> > U.S. targets, a point that critics have always questioned.
> >
> > On the CBS program 60 Minutes eight days ago, she said everything
pointed
> to
> > "an attack abroad."
> >
> > In an opinion piece for the Washington Post published last month, Rice
> > wrote: "Despite what some have suggested, we received no intelligence
that
> > terrorists were preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as
> > missiles.
> >
> > "Some analysts speculated that terrorists might hijack planes to try and
> > free U.S.-held terrorists."
> >
> > Yesterday, two major U.S. newspapers ran front-page stories that gave
> > further credence to the testimony of Clarke.
> >
> > The New York Times published an exhaustive study of anti-terrorism
efforts
> > by the Bush White House during the summer of 2001, concluding that
> vigilance
> > may have peaked in early July that summer, followed by "a scattered and
> > inconsistent" effort in the weeks before Sept. 11.
> >
> > The Washington Post, in a series of interviews with former
administration
> > officials and congressional investigators, found broad support for
> Clarke's
> > claim that the White House reacted slowly to warnings of the attacks.
> >
> > The paper also reviewed declassified testimony given by Clarke in 2002
in
> > front of congressional investigators and found no clear evidence of
> > contradictions in his later testimony.
> >
> > Also yesterday, the chair of the commission investigating the attacks
said
> > the White House would vet its final report "line-by-line," a review
Thomas
> > Kean said he was surprised to learn was required by law.
> >
> > Vice-chair Lee Hamilton, in a joint appearance on NBC's Meet the Press
> with
> > Kean, said the commission will abide by the law but will not allow the
> White
> > House to "distort" the report.
> >
> > Kean, a former Republican governor of New Jersey, and Hamilton, a former
> > Democratic congressman from Indiana, are to submit their final report in
> > late July.
> >
> > "I've been surprised by some of the things we've found," Kean said.
> >
> > It is impossible to corroborate Edmonds' statements, but she knows there
> > have been attempts to discredit her. She knows whistle-blowers are often
> > dismissed "as kooks or nutcases" and she shares that opinion regarding
> some
> > others who make unsubstantiated claims or promulgate conspiracy
theories.
> >
> > She is also embroiled in a legal battle with U.S. Attorney-General John
> > Ashcroft over her dismissal from the FBI. But she says she cannot be
> written
> > off as a disgruntled ex-employee because she was making allegations
about
> > slipshod procedures within the FBI before she fired.
> >
> > Edmonds has filed a lawsuit against the department, saying she was fired
> > after she raised security concerns within the FBI. The justice
> department's
> > internal inspector-general is investigating her claim she was fired in
> > reprisal for her allegations about shoddy transcriptions, unqualified
> > translators and a potential security breach.
> >
> > "She is a spectacular woman," said Edmonds' New York lawyer Eric Seiff.
> >
> > "If I am being fooled here, then I am being fooled big time. She comes
> > across as wonderfully straight with me in all our dealings."
> >
> > Bush, after months of refusals, succumbed to public pressure and allowed
> > Rice's public testimony this week.
> >
> > --
> > "We must create a <economic> crisis in order to ensure that there is no
> > alternative to a smaller government." - Bush - Imprimus Magazine 1995.
> >
> > "We seek to remove resources from the control of the state, thereby
> starving
> > it." - International Society for Individual Liberty - NeoCon
Libertarian.
> >
> > "Throughout his term, Bush has implied tax cuts would starve the
> government,
> > paying for themselves by causing budget deficits that, in turn, would
> place
> > heavy pressure on Congress to lower spending." - Jeff Lemieux - Senior
> > Economist - Progressive Policy Institute.
> >
> > "They have an agenda which is to starve the government of revenue. But
in
> > order to get it through, they keep on having to pretend that the tax
cuts
> > are affordable, and so they've been suppressing the likely cost of
> > everything, including the war on terror." - Paul Krugman - Economist.
> >
>
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