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Re: Security

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From: John Navas
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:06
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On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:30:34 GMT, "TGTBT Media Web Design & Hosting
Services" <sales@tgtbt-online.com> wrote in
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>John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in
>news:d83dk2l3j0bpfqonf1gp5m3da1bi5dqkb9@4ax.com: 

>>>Saying that, MAC address' can be spoofed/snatched, so Anti-spoofing 
>>>features would be good.
>> 
>> Sorry again, but no practical way to do that.
>
>LOL Are you saying that these features are not available? .e.g MAC
>Anti-spoof, MAC HIDEING, and that it is impossible to secure a network? 

What I'm actually saying is that MAC addresses are sent in the clear
(You know that, right?), so there's no practical way to "HIDE" them.
(Can you prove me wrong?)  The best you can do is MAC spoof detection,
but that's impractical for typical home users.

>I work with computers all day long, we (Signature Networks) provide
>Reading (Madejski) football stadium, Lincoln university and Harefield
>hospital  with their networks! 
>
>you would THINK THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM ON ABOUT!   *SCREAMS*

I would hope so, but apparently not (no offense intended).

>>>>>I would suggest something cheaper, easier to administer, and more
>>>>>robust.
>
>So what do you suggest? 

You really don't know?  Or are you just trying to argue?

>As you have failed to contruct a CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, just managed to
>criticise. Which I find rather derogatory. 

I wrote:  "For most users I would suggest WPA-PSK."  You missed that?

>However, your mention of identity theft is a valid point, but with these
>features, how would initial intrusion be possible?  It is denying at
>LAYER 2 of the OSI model! 

The only truly effective protections for typical home users are (a) WPA,
(b) personal firewalls, and (c) isolation (if in the router, but
unfortunately not available in most low-end products).

-- 
Best regards,   FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://Wireless.wikia.com>
John Navas      FAQ for Wi-Fi:  <http://wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi>
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