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John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in
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> On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:30:34 GMT, "TGTBT Media Web Design & Hosting
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>>John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in
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> What I'm actually saying is that MAC addresses are sent in the clear
> (You know that, right?), so there's no practical way to "HIDE" them.
> (Can you prove me wrong?)  The best you can do is MAC spoof detection,
> but that's impractical for typical home users.
> 


Why is it impractical ?  


ONLY ANSWER:  They are not informed of how it works and never get a
chance to understand it, it's why forums are a place to ask questions,
they expect good results, and if they want good results, they have to be
taught to understand it.   

Do you see my concept ? of making computer users more informed?




> 
>>>>>>I would suggest something cheaper, easier to administer, and more
>>>>>>robust.
>>
>>So what do you suggest? 
> 
> You really don't know?  Or are you just trying to argue?
> 



I was trying to invoke what your suggestion was.



>>As you have failed to contruct a CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM, just managed
>>to criticise. Which I find rather derogatory. 
> 
> I wrote:  "For most users I would suggest WPA-PSK."  You missed that?
> 


No I read it, but as you stated 'I can break into them' so how is it
secure if it doesnt work for security! lol 

My general security concept is: 'Prevention a.k.a isolation is the best
way' 


We are talking about making it as secure as possible.

The reason why home networking is generally so bad, is because people
just dont know or understand how to do things, thats why I was
introducing rather cheap industrial ways of implementing network
security. 





>>However, your mention of identity theft is a valid point, but with
>>these features, how would initial intrusion be possible?  It is
>>denying at LAYER 2 of the OSI model! 
> 
> The only truly effective protections for typical home users are (a)
> WPA, (b) personal firewalls, and (c) isolation (if in the router, but
> unfortunately not available in most low-end products).
> 

Well I essentially started out as a home user, just as we all did!

Again, Concept: Without information, they would never know how it's
possible! 


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Kind Regards,

Alex Davies
IT & Networking Solutions Developer for Signature Networks

TGTBT Media Web Design & Hosting Services

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