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> REAL ANSWER: Because it's way too hard for them to do.  They shouldn't
> have to learn much of anything, any more than they should have to
> learn much of anything to (say) drive a car -- the anti-lock brakes
> and airbags just work, without having to be taught.
> 

> 
> Nope.  I think that's wildly unrealistic.
> 

> 
> I said nothing of the kind.  WPA-PSK (with a strong passphrase) is
> quite secure.
> 
> 
> I'm talking about making it workable.
> 
> 
> Those ways are neither cheap nor practical for typical home users.
> 



Oops sorry John, I was getting confused with another post:



"Wireless networks are the most insecure networks around. If I wanted I
could gain access to a 128bit encrypted wireless network within 2-3hours
depending on how many IVs are being transmitted. WEP is the most
insecure encryption available. I would strongly reccomend ethernet
rather than wireless. "    By C DENVER 


I am aware and agree with making it user friendly, however, what about
the users who do actually know a bit and want to learn more ?  

If they don't they would ignore this post anyway!


I mean the 'average person' of the world dont know how to use
NEWSGROUPS. 

They hear about 'this person doing this, and they want to have that, so
this is how' 

Its the rarely documented stuff for users, I am simply answering the
questions put forward, with a solution that would work provided the
person knew / could figure out  how to configure it. 

Its a little like web design, im sick of seeing really easy to use
websites that all look the same, graphically stunning but of no actual
use. 

Then we have the opposite, really awful design but full of useful
things, which is hard to use because of the design. 


I would say what i suggested was 'happy medium / intermediate computer
user advice' 

If they can set up a wireless AP, setting up RADIUS isnt MUCH harder.


I would agree with you, WPA should be sufficient for most novice users,
however if you wish to go a 'step further', learn and PROTECT your
network with more than just encryption, get a RADIUS setup! 


Did you know: driving a car, you have to know/do much much more than
what you obviously think, in order to pass your driving test these days! 

Basic troubleshooting is common,  Basic concepts are what I work and
develop with. 

Most things I know are either from corporate training or hands on
experience(self taught) 

-- 
Kind Regards,

Alex Davies
IT & Networking Solutions Developer for Signature Networks

TGTBT Media Web Design & Hosting Services

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