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Article #151Re: NEWS: Google's Wi-Fi snoop nabbed passwords and emails
From: JC Dill
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:24
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:24
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John Navas wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:44:26 GMT, in > <hvh7dqg3aa002malch@news.sonic.net>, malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar) > wrote: > >> In article <ec4o165c3s0ac1n3u4ifmv5unffkholfuf@4ax.com>, John Navas <jncl1@navasgroup.com> wrote: >> >>> "However, we can already state that [...] Google did indeed record >>> e-mail access passwords [and] extracts of the content of email >>> messages." >> That's not good but if folks are using cleartext passwords >> over a wireless connection, they really shouldn't have a >> "reasonable expectation of privacy". > > I respectfully disagree -- the problem is the fundamentally flawed POP3 > protocol that many (most?) ISPs still use -- it shouldn't take a > computer science degree to use basic Internet services. Shame on us. Most ISPs offer protected protocols. I use protected protocols with all my email accounts on 3 different ISPs. Most end users don't bother to learn how to setup their software to use the protected protocols. This is not the ISPs fault. jc
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