🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: alt.internet.wireless
Article #153

Re: NEWS: Google's Wi-Fi snoop nabbed passwords and emails

#153
From: John Navas
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:40
33 lines
2772 bytes
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:22:43 -0700, in <hvinc0$4k0$3@speranza.aioe.org>,
JC Dill <jcdill.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

>Malcolm Hoar wrote:
>> In article <ec4o165c3s0ac1n3u4ifmv5unffkholfuf@4ax.com>, John Navas <jncl1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> "However, we can already state that [...] Google did indeed record
>>> e-mail access passwords [and] extracts of the content of email
>>> messages."
>> 
>> That's not good but if folks are using cleartext passwords
>> over a wireless connection, they really shouldn't have a
>> "reasonable expectation of privacy".
>
>Not just using cleartext passwords over wifi, using cleartext passwords 
>over UNPROTECTED wifi.  (If they had any protection on their wifi, then 
>Google wouldn't have connected or recorded anything.)  In that case they 
>absolutely have no expectation of privacy.  It's like shouting your 
>password to your friend across the street.

The problem is hardware manufacturers that marketed insecure wireless
devices, not the unsuspecting victims that bought them -- users are not
required to become computer security experts just to use Internet
services safely.  The industry has at last faced up to its
responsibilities, and is now doing much more to ensure that wireless
networks are secure by default: Wi-Fi Protected Setup.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup>

-- 
Best regards,   FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
John            FAQ for Wi-Fi:  <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
           Wi-Fi How To:  <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems:  <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>
Technical Details
Message-ID: <rrop161a2tvcal4nds4m6hdg8e7henhl45@4ax.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe16.iad.POSTED!84147782!not-for-mail
References: <gcf016thal9dvq3e3cl34eupjgtk8inoqj@4ax.com> <ec4o165c3s0ac1n3u4ifmv5unffkholfuf@4ax.com> <hvh7dqg3aa002malch@news.sonic.net> <hvinc0$4k0$3@speranza.aioe.org>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 104fd2,ef3216d4cd38d99c
X-Google-NewGroupId: yes
X-Google-Thread: fa874,ef3216d4cd38d99c
X-Google-NewGroupId: yes
X-Google-Attributes: gide43d82042,gidaa617e85ca,domainid0,public,usenet
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe16.iad.POSTED!84147782!not-for-mail
From: John Navas <jncl1@navasgroup.com>
Newsgroups: alt.internet.wireless,ba.internet
Subject: Re: NEWS: Google's Wi-Fi snoop nabbed passwords and emails
Message-ID: <rrop161a2tvcal4nds4m6hdg8e7henhl45@4ax.com>
References: <gcf016thal9dvq3e3cl34eupjgtk8inoqj@4ax.com> <ec4o165c3s0ac1n3u4ifmv5unffkholfuf@4ax.com> <hvh7dqg3aa002malch@news.sonic.net> <hvinc0$4k0$3@speranza.aioe.org>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 33
X-Complaints-To: abuse@WWWSpace.NET
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:40:19 UTC
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:40:22 -0700