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Article #155Re: NEWS: Google's Wi-Fi snoop nabbed passwords and emails
From: John Navas
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:50
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:50
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:16:33 +0100, in
<O-SdnSyjvrf9cIHRnZ2dnUVZ8q-dnZ2d@bt.com>, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
>On 19/06/2010 16:40, John Navas wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:22:43 -0700, in<hvinc0$4k0$3@speranza.aioe.org>,
>> JC Dill<jcdill.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Malcolm Hoar wrote:
>>>> In article<ec4o165c3s0ac1n3u4ifmv5unffkholfuf@4ax.com>, John Navas<jncl1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "However, we can already state that [...] Google did indeed record
>>>>> e-mail access passwords [and] extracts of the content of email
>>>>> messages."
>>>>
>>>> That's not good but if folks are using cleartext passwords
>>>> over a wireless connection, they really shouldn't have a
>>>> "reasonable expectation of privacy".
>>>
>>> Not just using cleartext passwords over wifi, using cleartext passwords
>>> over UNPROTECTED wifi. (If they had any protection on their wifi, then
>>> Google wouldn't have connected or recorded anything.) In that case they
>>> absolutely have no expectation of privacy. It's like shouting your
>>> password to your friend across the street.
>>
>> The problem is hardware manufacturers that marketed insecure wireless
>> devices, not the unsuspecting victims that bought them -- users are not
>> required to become computer security experts just to use Internet
>> services safely. The industry has at last faced up to its
>> responsibilities, and is now doing much more to ensure that wireless
>> networks are secure by default: Wi-Fi Protected Setup.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup>
>>
>The NFC option has been suspended due to lack of test bed support.
That's only one of four methods -- there are three other methods. Every
Wi-Fi Protected Setup certified product must support the PIN method.
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