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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:16:41 +0100, in
<B9adnagrM-0VlIDRnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com>, Bob <bob@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>On 19/06/2010 18:50, John Navas wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:16:33 +0100, in
>> <O-SdnSyjvrf9cIHRnZ2dnUVZ8q-dnZ2d@bt.com>, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/06/2010 16:40, John Navas wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:22:43 -0700, in<hvinc0$4k0$3@speranza.aioe.org>,
>>>> JC Dill<jcdill.lists@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Malcolm Hoar wrote:
>>>>>> In article<ec4o165c3s0ac1n3u4ifmv5unffkholfuf@4ax.com>, John Navas<jncl1@navasgroup.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "However, we can already state that [...] Google did indeed record
>>>>>>> e-mail access passwords [and] extracts of the content of email
>>>>>>> messages."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not good but if folks are using cleartext passwords
>>>>>> over a wireless connection, they really shouldn't have a
>>>>>> "reasonable expectation of privacy".
>>>>>
>>>>> Not just using cleartext passwords over wifi, using cleartext passwords
>>>>> over UNPROTECTED wifi.  (If they had any protection on their wifi, then
>>>>> Google wouldn't have connected or recorded anything.)  In that case they
>>>>> absolutely have no expectation of privacy.  It's like shouting your
>>>>> password to your friend across the street.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is hardware manufacturers that marketed insecure wireless
>>>> devices, not the unsuspecting victims that bought them -- users are not
>>>> required to become computer security experts just to use Internet
>>>> services safely.  The industry has at last faced up to its
>>>> responsibilities, and is now doing much more to ensure that wireless
>>>> networks are secure by default: Wi-Fi Protected Setup.
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup>
>>>>
>>> The NFC option has been suspended due to lack of test bed support.
>>
>> That's only one of four methods -- there are three other methods.  Every
>> Wi-Fi Protected Setup certified product must support the PIN method.
>>
>PBC is also mandatory and as far as I am concerned a pain in the neck. ...

Only for the access point, not for the client devices.

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