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Article #169Re: NEWS: Google accused of criminal intent over StreetView data
From: bod43
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:21
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:21
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On 10 June, 18:02, Bob <b...@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 10/06/2010 16:57, Char Jackson wrote: > > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:28:30 +0100, Bob<b...@invalid.invalid> Β wrote: > > >> On 10/06/2010 06:14, Char Jackson wrote: > >>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:22:03 -0700, John Navas<jn...@navasgroup.com> > >>> wrote: > > >>>> "The independent audit of the Google system shows that the system used > >>>> for the wi-fi collection intentionally separated out unencrypted > >>>> content (payload data) of communications and systematically wrote this > >>>> data to hard drives. This is equivalent to placing a hard tap and a > >>>> digital recorder onto a phone wire without consent or authorisation," > >>>> said PI in a statement. > > >>> I'm not defending Google, but I have to wonder how much "unencrypted > >>> content (payload data)" they were able to gather as they drove down > >>> the various streets. It seems like the vehicle would be out of range > >>> before it could gather much payload data. > > >> If they were trying to do wifi location as part of their mapping I doubt > >> that they would be moving, I would expect them to be stationary to > >> increase the accuracy of their triangulation when using GPS. > >> Googles patent:- > >> <http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P...> > > > I've only seen the camera cars twice, once on my street and once again > > in another residential part of my city. Both times they were moving > > with the speed of traffic, about 25-30 MPH. If they were stopping > > every time they saw an open network, they wouldn't get very far. > > I haven't seen them as yet as I was on holiday when they did my town. > Given the accuracy of GPS and if they were moving all of the time I > can't see that wifi location will be all that accurate. They seem to > have taken pictures every 12 metres on the estate and according to my > neighbour they stopped several times however he didn't say whether this > was prior to turning into other roads or not. Several roads were missed > although they effectively circumnavigated those areas by using other roads. Well if they want to send over a bomb or missile then it won't be accurate enough but for commercial purposes such as "here are some nearby fish and chip shops" it seems fine.
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