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Re: NEWS: Google accused of criminal intent over StreetView data

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From: bod43
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:21
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On 10 June, 18:02, Bob <b...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 10/06/2010 16:57, Char Jackson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:28:30 +0100, Bob<b...@invalid.invalid> Β wrote:
>
> >> On 10/06/2010 06:14, Char Jackson wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:22:03 -0700, John Navas<jn...@navasgroup.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> "The independent audit of the Google system shows that the system used
> >>>> for the wi-fi collection intentionally separated out unencrypted
> >>>> content (payload data) of communications and systematically wrote this
> >>>> data to hard drives. This is equivalent to placing a hard tap and a
> >>>> digital recorder onto a phone wire without consent or authorisation,"
> >>>> said PI in a statement.
>
> >>> I'm not defending Google, but I have to wonder how much "unencrypted
> >>> content (payload data)" they were able to gather as they drove down
> >>> the various streets. It seems like the vehicle would be out of range
> >>> before it could gather much payload data.
>
> >> If they were trying to do wifi location as part of their mapping I doubt
> >> that they would be moving, I would expect them to be stationary to
> >> increase the accuracy of their triangulation when using GPS.
> >> Googles patent:-
> >> <http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=P...>
>
> > I've only seen the camera cars twice, once on my street and once again
> > in another residential part of my city. Both times they were moving
> > with the speed of traffic, about 25-30 MPH. If they were stopping
> > every time they saw an open network, they wouldn't get very far.
>
> I haven't seen them as yet as I was on holiday when they did my town.
> Given the accuracy of GPS and if they were moving all of the time I
> can't see that wifi location will be all that accurate. They seem to
> have taken pictures every 12 metres on the estate and according to my
> neighbour they stopped several times however he didn't say whether this
> was prior to turning into other roads or not. Several roads were missed
> although they effectively circumnavigated those areas by using other roads.

Well if they want to send over a bomb or missile then
it won't be accurate enough but for commercial purposes
such as "here are some nearby fish and chip shops"
it seems fine.
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From: bod43 <Bod43@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.internet.wireless,ba.internet
Subject: Re: NEWS: Google accused of criminal intent over StreetView data
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
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