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Article #170Re: NEWS: Google accused of criminal intent over StreetView data
From: Bob
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:02
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:02
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On 10/06/2010 16:57, Char Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:28:30 +0100, Bob<bob@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 10/06/2010 06:14, Char Jackson wrote: >>> On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:22:03 -0700, John Navas<jncl1@navasgroup.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "The independent audit of the Google system shows that the system used >>>> for the wi-fi collection intentionally separated out unencrypted >>>> content (payload data) of communications and systematically wrote this >>>> data to hard drives. This is equivalent to placing a hard tap and a >>>> digital recorder onto a phone wire without consent or authorisation," >>>> said PI in a statement. >>> >>> I'm not defending Google, but I have to wonder how much "unencrypted >>> content (payload data)" they were able to gather as they drove down >>> the various streets. It seems like the vehicle would be out of range >>> before it could gather much payload data. >>> >> If they were trying to do wifi location as part of their mapping I doubt >> that they would be moving, I would expect them to be stationary to >> increase the accuracy of their triangulation when using GPS. >> Googles patent:- >> <http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=%2220100020776%22.PGNR.&OS=DN/20100020776&RS=DN/20100020776> > > I've only seen the camera cars twice, once on my street and once again > in another residential part of my city. Both times they were moving > with the speed of traffic, about 25-30 MPH. If they were stopping > every time they saw an open network, they wouldn't get very far. > I haven't seen them as yet as I was on holiday when they did my town. Given the accuracy of GPS and if they were moving all of the time I can't see that wifi location will be all that accurate. They seem to have taken pictures every 12 metres on the estate and according to my neighbour they stopped several times however he didn't say whether this was prior to turning into other roads or not. Several roads were missed although they effectively circumnavigated those areas by using other roads.
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