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Re: Programming by dinosaurs [Was: Gwbasic - Help needed please]

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:23
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Ian Staples <ianst@refer.to.sig.au.invalid> wrote in
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> Judson McClendon <judmc@bellsouth.net> wrote

>> You're programming in the past, using outdated technology.
>> I started programming in 1968 using punched cards.  When
>> CRT based programmer editors came out, it made a tremendous
>> boost in productivity.  I still loved my printed listings, and used
>> them for a long time.  [...]

> :-)

> Ah, memories...  I know the feeling.

> My first "on line" data entry and programming (FORTRAN) was
> done on a TTY connected to the PDP-10 at UQ, and I became
> quite paranoid about keeping hard copies of every damn thing
> I did -- so I could check for possible errors later was the rationale.
> I was quite frustrated by the "modern" VDUs in the Vet Dept which
> I had to use occasionally when the good old TTYs in Agric were
> booked out [those vets could afford all the good gear it seems]
> -- no hard copy! What if I had made errors!?

Wota dinosaur. I had to physically remove the last of
the card punches so dinosaurs like you couldnt use them.

> Well, in fact, the hard copies lived unseen and unread
> in a cupboard for over 25 years after they were "needed".

> But I must admit, I still prefer a listing if I'm studying the logic of a program.

Yeah, but your dad always preferred stuff written with a quill pen too.

> You don't see enough at one time on a screen,

Depends entirely on how its written.

> and I find it easier and more satisfying to flick back and forth
> between real pages rather than scrolling up and down on a VDU.

Chiselled stone is even better, no big deal if you spill the coffee on it.

> (Maybe if I was better at remembering what
> I've just seen, it wouldn't be such a problem. 8-)

Yeah, time for your summary execution.
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