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Re: Programming by dinosaurs [Was: Gwbasic - Help needed please]

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From: Ian Staples
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:24
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Selectively quoting from what Ian Lowery 
<ianl@nospam.curie.dialix.com.au> wrote in
article <f6qtrscqb5f8potac2mfbb8p90kjq3jk6n@4ax.com>:

>ianst@refer.to.sig.au.invalid (Ian Staples) wrote:
>
>>My first "on line" data entry and programming (FORTRAN) 
>
>Eeek! Fortrash! Dreadful language, 

IIRC, one of its biggest advantages was that you were restricted
to 6-character file names[1].  This was excellent preparation for the
subsequent world of MS-DOS -- I've never felt at all limited by the
extravagent length of 8-character file names that others seemed to 
find so inadequate.

>You never got to stick your foot out when somebody was carrying a load
>of punch cards?

UQ was clearly before its time by going interactive while the rest of
the world punched on.  But, again IIRC, to set up batch jobs on the
PDP-10 you had to pretend you were submitting a stack of cards. :-)

>I do too. There is a limit to what I can do on the scrreen. Making
>texta notes on the screen doesn't work very well.

Use a whiteboard pen next time...

[1] Or was that a limitation of the DECSystem monitor, rather than 
FORTRAN per se?  Can't remember at this distance.

Note: a.l.b dropped from followups.

Cheers,  Ian S. (who was here long before that pretender, as is
clearly demonstrated by the fact I've already got to S and he's
still stuck in L).


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From: ianst@refer.to.sig.au.invalid (Ian Staples)
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Subject: Re: Programming by dinosaurs [Was: Gwbasic - Help needed please]
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