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Article #84Re: PGP
From: Erik Oliver
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 16:47
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 16:47
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Well, first of all, RIPEM's command line reminds me like something from the C compile from hell... Just trying to figure out which set of commands fit most appropriately where was annoying. pgp was easy to figure out and in less than an hour I was up and running with it. It's key combinations were easy -k_ letter to do anything involving keys, pgp by itself with a file name automatically decrypts, rather intelligently I might add, and so on. Now, I am no UNIX whimp, but, I found RIPEM's plethora of command line options to be just too much and too poorly implemented, perhaps it is time for some separation of the command. Lastly, I dislike the centralization of key verification by server, and genuinely prefer PGP's distributed method since it allows me to build a ring of trust based around other people I trust, not around an easily comprimised INTERNET accessible UNIX box. Lastly, as to the distinction between PEM and RIPEM, at least in the original stuff concerning TIS's implementation of PEM, I remember using the word RIPEM, perhaps that is my memory failing me. :) I am genuinely lookin forward to the TIS implementation because it sounds like they've gone about fully integrating it into a mailer. That is definitely one of my requirements. Also, pgp is more usable in other settings where you are not sending mail, but instead are leaving files around. I am certain that RIPEM has most (if not all) of the features in PGP, but accessibility is an issue. Lastly, I with the exception of David Sternlight, I have yet to meet too many other people who are not using PGP because of fear of patent laws. So, I guess David won't be able to read my mail, but the rest of the INTERNET will. :) (sorry for the jab at you David, but I couldn't resist.) Also, I return to the issue of compatibility across PEM implimentations, RIPEM does not yet correctly impliment PEM it impliments the author's inerpretation of PEM? (correct me if I am wrong on this point.) Using various PEM implimentations is a lot like using different DES implimentations, MacTools used to come with an encryption product with DES as did Symantec Utilities for the Mac, although I never tried it, I suspect that the two weren't compatible. Yet, both used DES. Hmm... Does this mean that I was benefiting by using DES because it was the standard? I don't think so. Lastly, there is absolutely no question at this point that DES is crackable, there are just too many people saying it, along with the fact that the US Govt doesn't trust DES for its secret documents. Although IDEA is not as heavily tested, at least it remains a big question mark. So, given the choice between encrypting my sensitive data with a system that is known to be crackable, and a system that is a big question mark, I will choose the latter. Additionally, there is a civil disobedience component to using PGP which I enjoy and think is important. Enough incoherent blabber on my part...... -Erik
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dtix!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!caen!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!ralph.cs.haverford.edu!eoliver From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,alt.security.ripem Subject: Re: PGP Message-ID: <W7GWBQCK@cc.swarthmore.edu> Date: 6 Jan 93 16:47:32 GMT References: <1993Jan6.050831.22326@netcom.com> <A2GWB31F@cc.swarthmore.edu> <1993Jan6.093413.17974@news.cs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@cc.swarthmore.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department Lines: 58 Nntp-Posting-Host: ralph.cs.haverford.edu