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On Sep 10, 10:08 pm, Doug Laidlaw <blackh...@afraid.org> wrote:
> % wrote:
> > "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:cf60eca7-16fd-40c5-972e-b3365d572678@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 10, 5:54 am, Charles <ckr...@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:
> >> ScienceDaily (Sep. 8, 2009) — One in five patients with chronic kidney
> >> disease is depressed, even before beginning long-term dialysis therapy
> >> or developing end-stage renal disease, UT Southwestern Medical Center
> >> researchers have found.
>
> >> The study, based on a pool of 272 participants, is the first to
> >> examine the rate of depression among these patients using the
> >> Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th edition (DSM
> >> IV), which is considered the gold-standard in evaluating depression.
>
> >> "Because patients in the early stages of chronic kidney disease are at
> >> increased risk for clinical depression, we as nephrologists should
> >> consider screening our patients for depression in clinic," said Dr.
> >> Susan Hedayati, assistant professor of internal medicine at UT
> >> Southwestern and a staff nephrologist at the Dallas Veterans Affairs
> >> Medical Center. She is the lead author of the study, available online
> >> and in the current issue of the American Journal of Kidney Diseases.
>
> >> <more>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090908125835.htm
>
> >> -----------------------------------------------
>
> >> One leads to the other? I wonder which way it works.
>
> > I've got a fucked liver, but the strongest kidneys local hospital has
> > ever seen. Phhht, who needs a liver.
>
> > --
> > Kip.
>
> Who said that there is cause and effect?  All that the study says, is that
> the two occur together.  There are many causes of depression, physical and
> psychological. Having a difficult existence is enough to bring on
> depression.  In my state of knowledge (almost nil)  I would be inclined to
> say that impaired kidney function can result in inadequate clearance of
> toxic substances, which may result in depression.  So there you have two
> arguments, one each way.
>
> But the important thing is that nephrologists are being encouraged to take a
> holistic approach, to see the patient as a person, not as a walking kidney.
>
> dOUG.

That is correct to a point, depression is caused by an imbalance in
brain activity things such as medication I'm using, Prisqic
(desvenafaxine)
seem to help in a way, but if I get really depressed I do.

While brain toxins will cause it - they might help it.

I don't see what kidneys have to do with it. As I typed I've got
the best ones in the world. Fucked liver.

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Kipland