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Re: Link Found Between Depression, Early Stages Of Chronic Kidney Disease

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From: Doug Laidlaw
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:08
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> "the_dawggie" <the_dawggie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cf60eca7-16fd-40c5-972e-b3365d572678@j9g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 10, 5:54 am, Charles <ckr...@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:
>> ScienceDaily (Sep. 8, 2009) — One in five patients with chronic kidney
>> disease is depressed, even before beginning long-term dialysis therapy
>> or developing end-stage renal disease, UT Southwestern Medical Center
>> researchers have found.
>>
>> The study, based on a pool of 272 participants, is the first to
>> examine the rate of depression among these patients using the
>> Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders 4th edition (DSM
>> IV), which is considered the gold-standard in evaluating depression.
>>
>> "Because patients in the early stages of chronic kidney disease are at
>> increased risk for clinical depression, we as nephrologists should
>> consider screening our patients for depression in clinic," said Dr.
>> Susan Hedayati, assistant professor of internal medicine at UT
>> Southwestern and a staff nephrologist at the Dallas Veterans Affairs
>> Medical Center. She is the lead author of the study, available online
>> and in the current issue of the American Journal of Kidney Diseases.
>>
>> <more> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090908125835.htm
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------
>>
>> One leads to the other? I wonder which way it works.
> 
> I've got a fucked liver, but the strongest kidneys local hospital has
> ever seen. Phhht, who needs a liver.
> 
> --
> Kip.

Who said that there is cause and effect?  All that the study says, is that 
the two occur together.  There are many causes of depression, physical and 
psychological. Having a difficult existence is enough to bring on 
depression.  In my state of knowledge (almost nil)  I would be inclined to 
say that impaired kidney function can result in inadequate clearance of 
toxic substances, which may result in depression.  So there you have two 
arguments, one each way.

But the important thing is that nephrologists are being encouraged to take a 
holistic approach, to see the patient as a person, not as a walking kidney.

dOUG.
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Subject: Re: Link Found Between Depression, Early Stages Of Chronic Kidney Disease
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