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"Steven C (Doktersteve)" <real_doktersteve@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> "revek" <tanirevek@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > "Patricia Heil" <pjayheil@erols.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FAE48AD.675B4C1@erols.com...
> > > I recently posted here that one of my concerns with Atkins is
> > > that 68% of those who tried it, in one clinical study, wound up
> > > constipated.
> >
> > And how long was this study?  Did they ever get past the first
phase?
> > That is kind of important, as you move past induction, which is
> > supposed to last 2 weeks only, you are supposed to begin eating
more
> > vegetables, and less of other things.  Two weeks is not long
enough to
> > give you long term problems, and any study that focuses on the
> > begining stage as if it is the whole diet is worthless as a source
of
> > information.
> >
> >
>
> and i have read that some people's initial phase lasts longer based
on how
> much they want or need to loose. Is that true?

They may base it on those criteria, but if they did, they would be
doing Atkins incorrectly.  Induction is more than just limiting
yourself to 20 carbs per day, it's also restricting certain foods
known to cause problems in some people.  (The induction phase is the
first part of an elimination diet to help find food allergies and food
triggers-- the things that make you binge, as well as 'kick starting'
weight loss for motivational purposes).  It's also about teaching
people who don't eat healthy or know much about portion control or how
to listen to their bodies (or they wouldn't have gotten fat, in most
cases) almost effortlessly.

Once past induction, you may stay at 20 grams if you feel comfortable
there but you stop eating from the restricted induction list only.
Staying on the induction food list or restricting your carbs to
induction levels instead of some other number in no way helps you lose
faster or any more, even though many people assume it does.


> > That is bad for long term health.  Removing fiber
> > > from the diet demonstrably leads to colo-rectal cancer, the
> > > third leading cancer killer behind lung cancer and prostate
cancer,
> > > and therefore the #2 preventable killer cancer.
> >
>
> that is a very good point. i am sure that a proponent of the diet
could
> bring up something to debate you on this, but i havent seen anything
of that
> sort yet.
>
> > Atkins goes out of it's way to insist on lots of fiber-- and in
the
> > two week beiginning phase if you do not eat enough fiberous
> > vegetables, you are supposed to ease the *temporary* situation
with
> > fiber supplements.
> >
> >
>
> So does that prevent the above?

Studies suggest that fiber helps reduce the occurence of colon-rectal
cancer.  If Atkins done correctly means lots of fiber, then that would
suggest that Atkins could be a viable strategy against colon-rectal
cancer.

Studies also suggest that glucose is cancer's best friend.  Sugars and
starches convert to glucose.  Reducing as much as possible sugars and
starches, while increasing fiber and vitamins through  high nutrient
vegetables (ala Akins) would seem to be a sensible thing to do, if you
worry about such things.

Fat and protien also have their debatable points.  But since that
covers all the calorie sources available to humans, we'll just have to
make do with what we have.

revek  (nothing is all black or all white in the world of
nutrition.... except transfats LOL)


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